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Old 01-07-2011, 10:41 PM
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Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R

You gotta love Weiner ... if not for the entertainment value ... he's HILARIOUS ... not surprisingly he represents the district where I was raised ....

classic New Yorker mad bulldog ....

He knows his rules of order ... and knows how to play the system of house order ... he's a master tactician and jester.

He punks so many with the same move ... and they seem to fall for it ... time after time ...

He'll yield .... then while someone is just about to get it going, in mid-sentence request his time again ...

it's as if they don't realize they're getting jerked on the House floor.
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:41 AM
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3 pages of posts by big D and no mention of upc,wow ! record alert folks ! Call Guiness
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:16 AM
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DA - Looks like the Republicans are following the Democrats and the Presidents lead on the transparency vows.
Seems like I remember something about posting all bills on a website for public viewing, before voting? Didn't the President and the Dems promise this and it never happened?
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:55 AM
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Looks like it's back to business as usual in the People's House.

After reading the Constitution and sending letters of reprimand to the President the Republican controlled House of Reps does what ...???

Has two members vote who are not officially sworn in ...

and then breaks their own "transparency" rules calling for three days notice before votes just so they could "delete" their "mistake". Republicans allowed for four minutes of debate on this particular resolution.
Ahhh DA - you are stretching it!! The 3 days notice only applies to bills and joint resolutions. Since this was neither, it does not apply. Otherwise, looks like politics as usual. Looks like neither party is ready for prime-time.
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:38 AM
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Ahhh DA - you are stretching it!! The 3 days notice only applies to bills and joint resolutions. Since this was neither, it does not apply. Otherwise, looks like politics as usual. Looks like neither party is ready for prime-time.
Weiner was well aware of the house rules regarding 3 days notice ... and as you observe his response to the chair's rebuttal is quick and seemingly prepared ...
he wasnt caught flat-footed

Albeit, what he had the chair recognize was that their own rules would not apply to any breaches of the Constitution as this one was on the very House floor... the resolution notwithstanding ... thus ...the scope of transparency was limited, even in light other legislation already voted on that day without Constitutional authority ...

it was masterful ... and was a brilliant display of turning the tables on those who seemingly claim Constitutional superiority

It does bring pause to think that if a more serious offense against our Constitution would have transpired .... that four minutes could still be allotted and the majority then rams down their "quick fix" with no open debate even with this new group that will rival the "Do Nothing" Congress

Transparency ... schmanparency

The new house rule putting the rep. from Wisconsin as budget czar with some absolute powers is what scares me most.

And yes, it is all politics as usual from Day 1 ... of "change".

You gotta think Sessions and Fitzpatrick got a tongue lashing by the establishment behind closed doors.

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Old 01-08-2011, 08:53 AM
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DA - Looks like the Republicans are following the Democrats and the Presidents lead on the transparency vows.
Seems like I remember something about posting all bills on a website for public viewing, before voting? Didn't the President and the Dems promise this and it never happened?
Ah ... when cornered and in doubt the time proven ... Canam 'mommy-tested' defense is: "but he hit me first"



Day one ... and already the two wrongs make a right posturing begins.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:04 AM
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DA - just saying politicians are politicians!!
It was amusing that Sessions and Fitzpatrick looked totally out of their league!
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3 pages of posts by big D and no mention of upc,wow ! record alert folks ! Call Guiness
Guiness the book of records
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Guiness the dark beer for a drink?
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The 2012 campaign has been going on since the 2008 elections both by the President and those in the legislature.
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Transparency ... schmanparency

I'm having trouble finding your Transparency... Schmanparency threads on Obama.


I take nothing away from what you are saying. It remains true... but it's everywhere.
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