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Old 08-11-2007, 11:19 PM
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Church refuses to host funeral of gay man

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ARLINGTON, Texas (Aug. 10) - A megachurch canceled a memorial service for a Navy veteran 24 hours before it was to start because the deceased was gay.

Officials at the nondenominational High Point Church knew that Cecil Howard Sinclair was gay when they offered to host his service, said his sister, Kathleen Wright. But after his obituary listed his life partner as one of his survivors, she said, it was called off.

"It's a slap in the face. It's like, 'Oh, we're sorry he died, but he's gay so we can't help you,"' she said Friday.

Wright said High Point offered to hold the service for Sinclair because their brother is a janitor there. Sinclair, who served in the first Gulf War, died Monday at age 46 from an infection after surgery to prepare him for a heart transplant.

The church's pastor, the Rev. Gary Simons, said no one knew Sinclair, who was not a church member, was gay until the day before the Thursday service, when staff members putting together his video tribute saw pictures of men "engaging in clear affection, kissing and embracing."

Simons said the church believes homosexuality is a sin, and it would have appeared to endorse that lifestyle if the service had been held there.

"We did decline to host the service - not based on hatred, not based on discrimination, but based on principle," Simons told The Associated Press. "Had we known it on the day they first spoke about it - yes, we would have declined then. It's not that we didn't love the family."

Simons said the decision had nothing to do with the obituary. He said the church offered to pay for another site for the service, made the video and provided food for more than 100 relatives and friends.

"Even though we could not condone that lifestyle, we went above and beyond for the family through many acts of love and kindness," Simons said.

Wright called the church's claim about the pictures "a bold-faced lie." She said she provided numerous family pictures of Sinclair, including some with his partner, but said none showed men kissing or hugging.

The 5,000-member High Point Church was founded in 2000 by Simons and his wife, April, whose brother is Joel Osteen, well-known pastor of the 38,000-member Lakewood Church in Houston. Now High Point meets in a 432,000-square-foot facility in Arlington, near Dallas.

Wright said relatives declined the church's offer to hold the service at a community center because they felt it was an inappropriate venue. It ultimately was held at a funeral home, but the cancellation still lingered in some minds, she said.


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Love the sinner but hate the sin....

he was good enough to clean their toilets, but they didnt know he was gay?


so, they only do funerals of saved folks? they didnt say, but I assume they wont do the funeral of a known unsaved person either.....


Just wondered what your thoughts on the matter were...
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:31 PM
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I read this article a little bit ago and wondered how long it would take to make it here.

This should prove interesting....

Do you read that as he is the janitor there or his brother is??
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:43 PM
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I too wondered it it would get posted...
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Old 08-12-2007, 12:22 AM
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Interesting to note they only host funerals for those who make it.


The church is at fault here.

Not enough checking before offering, and failure to follow through once offer was accepted.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:00 AM
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I think the church was wrong to go back on their word. They told the family they would host the funeral, then they decided not to at the last minute...that's just wrong.

They could have said, "those pics aren't appropriate for the slide show" or whatever...but to dump em like that...that was bad.

They did provide the family with food and paid or offered to pay for them to use some other building...but it still seems wrong to me.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:42 AM
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I personally think the church was at fault because they could have sit down with the family and explained about the slides show. After all we bury saints and sinners it is God that does the final judging. I know we must protect and stand up for right but I think the church failed by saying they would and at the last minute saying no.
I did not mention this to Brother Alvear for his opinion but I think he would have sat down with the family and settled things from the start...However I do know that things sometimes take all of us by surprize...
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I agree with becky123456789 that the church should have offered to have continued with the memorial service with conditions.

If the man's family agreed that his gay orientation would not be spoken about, pictures shown, etc then they could have continued.

Then if the family had refused those conditions the church could have told them in a kindly way that it was not appropriate for them to host the memorial as it would include affirming a lifestyle the church believes is sin.

I do think I read that the church has been very supportive of the family even though the man did not attend the church, only a relative.
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I think the church was wrong to go back on their word. They told the family they would host the funeral, then they decided not to at the last minute...that's just wrong.

They could have said, "those pics aren't appropriate for the slide show" or whatever...but to dump em like that...that was bad.

They did provide the family with food and paid or offered to pay for them to use some other building...but it still seems wrong to me.
In my mind, the fact that they DID provide food and offered to pay for the use of some other building, but refused to have the funeral in their own facility is just a double standard. What's this? He was good enough to spend their money on but not good enough for them to get their hands dirty working around?

Sis A, you are a woman of wisdom. You are right - the man is already dead. Now it is up to GOD to do the judging. Reaching out to his remaining family in Christian love is not anywhere near the same as saying to them that they condoned the man's sexual orientation. They certainly did have the right to refuse to put inappropriate pictures into the slide show and to refuse to discuss his sexual orientation during the service. But you know what? When I die, I hope no one discusses MY sex life at my funeral either!!! Why would that even need to come up??????
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THATS SAD!!!!
While we certainly dont condone the lifestyle...WE are suppose to be the church!

SAD INDEED!!!

The place probably would have been full of sinners and could have heard the gospel...or something!!!

Funerals are one of the few times you can get to sinners when they are willing to listen!!

DUMB MISTAKE!
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