Tommy Tenney on Invoking the Name of Jesus: Magic Equation or Presence?

SDG · #1 07-23-2007, 01:51 AM

I have begun reading Tommy Tenney's latest book "The Ultimate Comeback: How to Turn a Bad Night into a Good Day".

I am being thoroughly blessed by the Word and thoughts he shares in this book.

The central theme of his third chapter "I feel Stripped, Bare and Dry: Is there a way back?" is that the genesis of being restored starts in God's presence.

In this chapter he also makes some interesting comments about invoking the name of Jesus, worship, prayer and even a quip about standards. Considering his heritage
and some of the discussions we've had here lately I thought I'd share some excerpts and quotes from this chapter.

Lastly, please do not mistake these excerpts to be the basis or tenor of the book ... it would be unfair to mischaracterize a book that is mainly written to encourage the believer by showing us how to comeback from life's curveballs and failures ...

they are simply quotes I selected to share from a portion of one chapter.

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Page 32,33
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"When all seems lost, find yourself in the presence of God.

The genesis of your restoration is an encounter with the presence of God. The maintenance of your restoration is
connected to continued exposure to the presence of God"

Avoid Rigid Man-made Ritual and Mechanical Mantras

"Let me warn you that our discussion about God's presence is more than mere words or rigid man-made ritual. Don't
expect to lean on some mechanical mantra of deeper Christian experience, thinking in it you will find the secret
of God. People have made this mistake for untold generations. It is not about and equation or fleshly formula- it's about relationship.

In the apostle Paul's day,people who should have known better mistook the act of "invoking the name of Jesus" for the
reality of KNOWING JESUS. They had no relationship with Jesus.

Seven sons of one Israel's highest ranking leaders fancied themselves to being the ancient "ghost busters" and demon
exorcists.

Quote:

13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “We[a] exorcise you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches.” 14 Also there were seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, who did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?”
16 Then the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered[b] them, and prevailed against them,[c] so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. 17 This became known both to all Jews and Greeks dwelling in Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. 18 And many who had believed came confessing and telling their deeds. 19 Also, many of those who had practiced magic brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted up the value of them, and it totaled fifty thousand pieces of silver. Acts 19:13-17 NKJV

The name of Jesus isn't some magical equation- there is a presence attached to it. You cannot disconnect the Lord's presence from His name and expect that name to retain restorative powers. It is powerless to invoke the name of Jesus to do the will of man."

SDG · #2 07-23-2007, 01:53 AM

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pages 34,35
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"Being in God's presence answer's questions before you even ask them. Learn to retreat into His presence. "The name
of the Lord is a strong tower; the righteous run to it and are safe"

"Do you know that worship is the art of hanging out with God?"

"Too often we fall into the rut of thinking there is such a thing as 'bad' worship or 'wrong' worship. The only
qualification I can think of are those Jesus gave us- to worship the Father"in spirit and in truth"

"Worship is how you act in the presence of God. Prayer is the language you speak when you are worshipping."

"When we talk about worship, we often insist on adding recommended or required body positions, music styles,
clothing guidelines, class curriculums and countless other rules and regulations."

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"Prayer isn't a matter of mechanics; it is a matter of understanding.

When you invoke the name of Jesus, do not use it like an "abra cadabra" magic equation or manipulative incantation taken from a child's cartoon or occultist text. When you invoke His name, you are calling for his presence. And that's that.

When my wife calls my name throughout the house, or when she calls me on my cell phone, she is doing more than merely calling my name. She is calling my presence. She isn't interested merely hearing my voice on a recording, or seeing my picture pasted on a life-sized stand up poster.
She wants me!"

Do you want His Benefits or His Presence?

"When you invoke the name of Jesus, you connect His presence with that precious name. If you love His presence, you will act differently toward Him than if you all you really want are the benefits connected to His name.

You don't really love Him if all you want to do is steal God's credit card, to prostitute the name of Jesus, to line your pockets or protect your future. You just love His stuff and the seemingly unlimited bank account that comes with it."

SDG · #3 07-23-2007, 01:55 AM

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"The purpose of preaching and teaching is to raise up worshippers. It is to equip us for the work of the ministry, not merely provide work for ministers. Even the Westminster Catechism speaks of the duty of mant to worship and enjoy God.

I'm not trying to merely teach you how to say a little magical eqation "in the name of Jesus". If you say His name and disconnect His name from His presence, then it's just another name. The restoration of the almond rod that budded was directly connected to the presence of God, not the name of the tent."

"Worship and prayer from the midst of trouble can usher you into His presence, and it is precisely in His presence where you
will find a starting point fo the "way back". Yes, there is a way back!"

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"There were other people named Jesus during the Lord's earthly ministry. Jesus- Yeshua or Jehoshua - was not an uncommon name in that
day. If you say His name, and you disconnect His name from His person, you are merely saying ordinary words without supernatural effect.

When you say the name of Jesus and you have a relationship with Him, you invoke the very presence of the Lord into the situation!

Only God's presence can transform life's greatest failures into our greatest triumphs.

There is power in the presence of God. And that, my friend, is where the process of restoration begins."

Pressing-On · #4 07-23-2007, 01:56 AM

Sounds like a great book.

Trouvere · #5 07-23-2007, 05:28 AM

When we call His name our God comes.Its not magic.
Here is what the bible says:

Psa 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I [will be] with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

Psa 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

Its not magic.Magic is not powerful.Its more than magic.Its power and annointing and a mighty thing that is too glorious to explain with
mere human words.BTW I remember Brother TF Tenny preaching a camp
in La saying that knowing the name of the chief shepherd was everything.He even went as far as to preach that if you knew his name and pulled on His tent cord that He would answer.Its knowing who He is.If you are apostolic
and understand salvation and that experience is active in your life you
know that power.Its the power of God.The bible remains true and men remain liars.

tamor · #6 07-23-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

When we call His name our God comes.Its not magic.
Here is what the bible says:

Psa 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I [will be] with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

Psa 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

Its not magic.Magic is not powerful.Its more than magic.Its power and annointing and a mighty thing that is too glorious to explain with
mere human words.BTW I remember Brother TF Tenny preaching a camp
in La saying that knowing the name of the chief shepherd was everything.He even went as far as to preach that if you knew his name and pulled on His tent cord that He would answer.Its knowing who He is.If you are apostolic
and understand salvation and that experience is active in your life you
know that power.Its the power of God.The bible remains true and men remain liars.

Exactly. Too many christians are looking for magic instead of miracles.

SDG · #7 07-23-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouvere

When we call His name our God comes.Its not magic.
Here is what the bible says:

Psa 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I [will be] with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

Psa 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

Its not magic.Magic is not powerful.Its more than magic.Its power and annointing and a mighty thing that is too glorious to explain with
mere human words.BTW I remember Brother TF Tenny preaching a camp
in La saying that knowing the name of the chief shepherd was everything.He even went as far as to preach that if you knew his name and pulled on His tent cord that He would answer.Its knowing who He is.If you are apostolic
and understand salvation and that experience is active in your life you
know that power.Its the power of God.The bible remains true and men remain liars.

I agree calling on the name of Jesus is not magic, if we have a relationship w/ Him or sincere desire to commune w/ him, ... doing so will summon the very person of and presence of Jesus ... hence the name represents all that He is ...

Yet the name alone without His presence and everything He is ....
are just words ...

simply verbalizing it like the sons Sceva... without knowing Him ... is a powerless display that can mean your detriment...

I understand the demon gave them the smackdown and left them in their birthday suits. I guess this is what is meant by not using the Lord's name in vain?

The question is .... do some today do so simply in imitation of the those that do have a relationship or desire to commune w/ the Almighty... thinking they have a magic jeanie?

Oh ...but when a child of God calls .... Jesus comes in the house ...

Excuse me as I shockamoo for a little bit.

Michael The Disciple · #8 07-23-2007, 10:51 AM

Its not really fair to compare the sons of Sceva who were not believers in Jesus with Christians who are. Im sure most Christians are not thinking in terms of a magic formula but rather in terms of loyalty to Christ.

SDG · #9 07-23-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its not really fair to compare the sons of Sceva who were not believers in Jesus with Christians who are. Im sure most Christians are not thinking in terms of a magic formula but rather in terms of loyalty to Christ.

Does anyone else agree w/ Mikey?

I submit not all professing Christians are believers. Some are sympathizers, some are ritualists and others are posers.

Trouvere · #10 07-23-2007, 05:48 PM

Daniel,
You can't separate Jesus from His name.When you call His name He comes.
People who have never known Him have gotten down on the sides of their
beds or down on their knees in desperation and said that powerful name
and behold He came to them.His name is attatched to the bearer of that name.That is why in Him we live and move and have our being.That is why
we can say as baptised believers that we are part of the body of Jesus
Christ.Not just a group but His actual body.His blood washed body.That
is why salvation in His name is so essential.It cements in the fact that
it is the only Name given among men whereby we can be saved.It is
why every knee shall bow and every tongue confess.
Your dad did more for you than to leave you silver or gold.He left you
the knowledge of that name and who is attatched to it.