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07-14-2007, 08:40 PM
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i will never forget
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The Future of the Oneness Pentecostal Movement
The new Forward (a magazine for UPCI preachers) came out this week.
In it, there is an article titled "Where Have All the Young Ministers Gone?". The entire Forward is about mentoring and ministerial transition from one generation to the next.
In this article, the writer mentions that of the 9100 licensed UPCI ministers, under 400 of them are below the age of thirty. Hence the question, "Where have all the young ministers gone?" It is my belief that the UPCI is in danger. Under 400 ministers under the age of thirty? Where have they all gone?
Lest I am accused of being an alarmist, consider the theme of last year's General Conference was "Passing the Mantle". Now we have an entire Forward dedicated to the problem.
Why are there so few young ministers and what can be done to remedy the problem?
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07-14-2007, 08:41 PM
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I have my own thoughts about it, but I won't share them...
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07-14-2007, 08:42 PM
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Mentor the young men, but allow them to be themselves. Don't expect them to be molded into your image. 
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07-14-2007, 08:42 PM
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i will never forget
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Originally Posted by Ronzo
I have my own thoughts about it, but I won't share them...
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Please share, and be brutally honest.
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07-14-2007, 09:21 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by shamgar1
The new Forward (a magazine for UPCI preachers) came out this week.
In it, there is an article titled "Where Have All the Young Ministers Gone?". The entire Forward is about mentoring and ministerial transition from one generation to the next.
In this article, the writer mentions that of the 9100 licensed UPCI ministers, under 400 of them are below the age of thirty. Hence the question, "Where have all the young ministers gone?" It is my belief that the UPCI is in danger. Under 400 ministers under the age of thirty? Where have they all gone?
Lest I am accused of being an alarmist, consider the theme of last year's General Conference was "Passing the Mantle". Now we have an entire Forward dedicated to the problem.
Why are there so few young ministers and what can be done to remedy the problem?
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I have to ask, why do they need to be licensed to minister? As for Pastors, why even bother aspiring to pastor when the only way to become a pastor anymore is to become on of an established church. It's very hard to start a church let alone getting approval to start one.
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07-14-2007, 09:22 PM
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My Family!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I have to ask, why do they need to be licensed to minister? As for Pastors, why even bother aspiring to pastor when the only way to become a pastor anymore is to become on of an established church. It's very hard to start a church let alone getting approval to start one.
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So they can pay the dues.
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07-14-2007, 09:25 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
So they can pay the dues.
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I guess, while at the same time many of them will not get compensated for their duties....like most of us unless you are music directer...winning souls, teaching bible studies, spending hours in prayer and alter working is not considered ministry or at least not a compensatable ministry 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-14-2007, 09:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas
I have to ask, why do they need to be licensed to minister? As for Pastors, why even bother aspiring to pastor when the only way to become a pastor anymore is to become on of an established church. It's very hard to start a church let alone getting approval to start one.
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Not if your Daddy's or Daddy in law is the pastor
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07-14-2007, 09:35 PM
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Quite frankly it's about time someone took notice ... this Forward article is at least 3-4 years in the making ...
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07-14-2007, 09:36 PM
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Isn't he cute?!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Originally Posted by shamgar1
Please share, and be brutally honest.
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I don't think you are going to get what you are hoping for here.
I think I could summarize Ron's basic thoughts on this in a few sentences for you...but that would be unkind.
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