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06-19-2007, 08:26 AM
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Sister Alvear
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1000 year reign
Let me say at the beginning I am no Bible teacher or expert on last days teachings. I just know how I feel it might be but this is just me.
So I am not asking this for a debate and I do know how some feel. I just want to know if I am the only person that feels that there will be an earthly 1000 year reign with mortals and imortals on earth. I do NOT believe Jesus has two brides therefor I believe the church will go through tribulation. My only question is does anyone believe that there will be a 1000 year reign in the future?
I do not have time or experience or qualify to debate this subject so I am not asking for a debate only asking does anyone believe like I do?
I really feel that it is not a salvation issue and I really feel no one REALLY knows...we will all see how things will unfold at some point...
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06-19-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Let me say at the beginning I am no Bible teacher or expert on last days teachings. I just know how I feel it might be but this is just me.
So I am not asking this for a debate and I do know how some feel. I just want to know if I am the only person that feels that there will be an earthly 1000 year reign with mortals and imortals on earth. I do NOT believe Jesus has two brides therefor I believe the church will go through tribulation. My only question is does anyone believe that there will be a 1000 year reign in the future?
I do not have time or experience or qualify to debate this subject so I am not asking for a debate only asking does anyone believe like I do?
I really feel that it is not a salvation issue and I really feel no one REALLY knows...we will all see how things will unfold at some point...
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Yes sister we will live and reign with Jesus on the new earth. We won't need a to hobble around on either.
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06-19-2007, 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Let me say at the beginning I am no Bible teacher or expert on last days teachings. I just know how I feel it might be but this is just me.
So I am not asking this for a debate and I do know how some feel. I just want to know if I am the only person that feels that there will be an earthly 1000 year reign with mortals and imortals on earth. I do NOT believe Jesus has two brides therefor I believe the church will go through tribulation. My only question is does anyone believe that there will be a 1000 year reign in the future?
I do not have time or experience or qualify to debate this subject so I am not asking for a debate only asking does anyone believe like I do?
I really feel that it is not a salvation issue and I really feel no one REALLY knows...we will all see how things will unfold at some point...
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I most certainly do believe in the 1000 yr. literal reign of Christ on the earth. Many post-tribbers also believe this.
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06-19-2007, 09:39 AM
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Location: Kentucky
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The 1000 year reign is clear enough to this post tribber.
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06-19-2007, 11:19 AM
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I do not believe it since there is no plain teaching of it anywhere in the bible, just a vision involving the picture of it in Revelation, where Revelation is so full of symbolism that does not itself explain what all the symbols mean. I will not debate it here, but y'all will know I am right after it's all said and done. heh heh
I will say one more thing about it. It is believed in order to somehow realize how natural Israel will come to God again. It is alleged that Ro 11:25-26 proposes a millennium after the church age. But Paul never said the jews will come to God outside the Church ANYWHERE in his writings.
So it's not only a second bride idea we must avoid, but ANOTHER PLAN OF SALVATION FOR ISRAEL OUTSIDE THE CHURCH, which the millennium teaching requires.
Sorry, it's Acts 2:38 for anyone and everyone from the day of pentecost to the white throne judgment! No millennium with another plan of salvation.
My thoughts, anyway.
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06-19-2007, 11:55 AM
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8: And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9: And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. Zech. 13:8-9
For those who think Israel has no end time part to play.
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06-19-2007, 11:57 AM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
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I tend to believe we are in this time now.
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06-19-2007, 11:59 AM
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The 1000 year reign has a beginning and an end.
4: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5: But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison Rev. 20:4-7
It begins in verse 4 and expires in verse 7. Clear enough.
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06-19-2007, 12:00 PM
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Not riding the train
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
8: And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9: And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. Zech. 13:8-9
For those who think Israel has no end time part to play.
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Who are the two parts representing?
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06-19-2007, 12:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by H2H
I tend to believe we are in this time now.
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What nations are you RULING WITH A ROD OF IRON?
26: And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations 27: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Rev. 2:26-27
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