UPCI drop minister without notice?

houston · #1 05-02-2016, 03:56 AM

Other than when a minister does not pay his dues, under what circumstances will the UPCI remove a minister from the organization without so much as a notice or a telephone call?

Background to the question:
I was told that a pastor notified his congregation that the UPCI has removed him from the organization. The pastor stated that he stopped receiving UPCI material in the mail.

I told the person relaying the info that the organization will drop a minister if he doesn't pay his dues and that I am not aware of any other circumstances where they will remove a minister without requesting that he meet with his district board.
Background to the pastor: he was reclusive as far as the district and section are concerned. The church didn't fellowship with any of the churches nearby. Could this be why he was dropped by the org?

Truthseeker · #2 05-02-2016, 06:46 AM

Why be in org if so reclusive?

houston · #3 05-02-2016, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Why be in org if so reclusive?

That's another story for another day.

aegsm76 · #4 05-02-2016, 07:47 AM

I have been around UPC leadership for basically all of my life and I have not heard of that one.
If it did happen, the district superintendent would be the one that would normally have the greatest influence in the decision.
I have seen pastors dropped, but not without notification, (and usually several conversations at that).

n david · #5 05-02-2016, 08:27 AM

The problem with this is the lack of first hand knowledge. You were told by someone who was either told by someone else, or was part of the congregation which heard from the Pastor.

There's likely more to the story. I have not heard of this happening before.

Esther · #6 05-02-2016, 08:29 AM

houston · #7 05-02-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

The problem with this is the lack of first hand knowledge. You were told by someone who was either told by someone else, or was part of the congregation which heard from the Pastor.

There's likely more to the story. I have not heard of this happening before.

The congregation was told by the pastor. The story doesn't add up. I told my friend that the pastor didn't pay his dues or he was asked to meet with the district board and he didn't show.

houston · #8 05-02-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Why be in org if so reclusive?

The pastor told me that soon after he took the church there were some that wanted him to be the district superintendent, but he declined. Apparently that caused issues (of jealousy) with some people. That, and he was close to N.A. Urshan.

FlamingZword · #9 05-02-2016, 12:34 PM

Ministers are dropping the UPCI.

I love my UPCI brethren, but as far as I am concerned the UPCI is becoming more irrelevant with each passing day. Sure they were great and did much good, but it has become old and tired.
It is time for either the old stale leadership to resign in mass and let the new generation take over or for new organizations to be formed from the bones of the UPCI.

The UPCI has become stuck, and not longer moving forward. It is time for the Oneness believers to get of that broken bandwagon and move on ahead.

good samaritan · #10 05-02-2016, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Ministers are dropping the UPCI.

I love my UPCI brethren, but as far as I am concerned the UPCI is becoming more irrelevant with each passing day. Sure they were great and did much good, but it has become old and tired.
It is time for either the old stale leadership to resign in mass and let the new generation take over or for new organizations to be formed from the bones of the UPCI.

The UPCI has become stuck, and not longer moving forward. It is time for the Oneness believers to get of that broken bandwagon and move on ahead.

Ouch! What particular things should they move forward about?