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Originally Posted by imreedemed
Hi Yvette
I'm sorry for you loss.
Do you really think the shaking and the tongue-movement is what saved your mom? Frankly i'm not familiar with that gospel. The Lord clearly says in His word that whomsover believeth in Him has eternal life. I'm convinced that believing comes with repentance and we are saved by His grace through faith in Christ. Your mom gained eternal life the moment she believed on Christ. that's my understanding of the Holy Scriptures
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Yes I do and that is the true gospel that Jesus taught Nicodemus. I am actually very surprised that you are on an Apostolic forum and do not know the scriptures. Believing itself is the first step towards obedience to Gods word. If you remember Nicodemus was a teacher of the law, a Pharisee. He went to Jesus privately and asked what must I do to be saved:
Jesus Teaches Nicodemus
John 3
King James Version (KJV)
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Fast forward to
Acts 2:38 we then find Peter teaching the exact same gospel,
Acts 2:38-39
New King James Version (NKJV)
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
This is truth and this the only truth. You cannot substitute it for another. Quite frankly I would seriously go and read these scriptures and pray for direction. God will open up your mind and understanding to the scriptures. To me this is very important and if I am not baptized in the name of Jesus and filled with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues then we are not saved and this is not according to my own thinking but it is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. Now we can refuse to obey what we just read, it is our choice. God created us with a free will but I would seriously consider reexamining your doctrine.
God Bless