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Old 03-09-2013, 03:21 PM
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Reconciliation, an accomplished fact

Reconciliation is an accomplished fact. It is entirely outside of yourself, and it is simply to be received. There is a new view of living, no longer for self, but for God; to die to self and live to Christ.

God has taken the initiative to reconcile man back to himself. God is not reconciled to man, as though God were partly to blame for the enmity. Rather, man is reconciled to God, for it is man who moved away from God. When people need to be reconciled to one another, it normally involves a situation where fault lies on both sides to some degree. Not so with the case between man and God, man has moved away from God, and it is man who needs to be reconciled back to God, not God back to man.

The basic idea of reconciling is to change or make otherwise. This is the reverse of Hellenistic religion, where it is the human being that seeks restoration of the gods’ favor, and also of Judaism, where confession of sin and repentance are the means by which reconciliation with God is sought. It is not that we must reconcile ourselves to God. Rather, we are to be reconciled, that is, to accept what God has already achieved.

It is not merely that we acquire a right standing or do good works; we actually become righteous. For through what Christ had accomplished, we truly assume his righteousness, just as Christ assumed our sin. If our debts are not posted to our account, it is because someone else has legally assumed them. Christ righteousness ours, and our sin his.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:16 PM
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Reconciliation is an accomplished fact. It is entirely outside of yourself, and it is simply to be received. There is a new view of living, no longer for self, but for God; to die to self and live to Christ.

God has taken the initiative to reconcile man back to himself. God is not reconciled to man, as though God were partly to blame for the enmity. Rather, man is reconciled to God, for it is man who moved away from God. When people need to be reconciled to one another, it normally involves a situation where fault lies on both sides to some degree. Not so with the case between man and God, man has moved away from God, and it is man who needs to be reconciled back to God, not God back to man.

The basic idea of reconciling is to change or make otherwise. This is the reverse of Hellenistic religion, where it is the human being that seeks restoration of the gods’ favor, and also of Judaism, where confession of sin and repentance are the means by which reconciliation with God is sought. It is not that we must reconcile ourselves to God. Rather, we are to be reconciled, that is, to accept what God has already achieved.

It is not merely that we acquire a right standing or do good works; we actually become righteous. For through what Christ had accomplished, we truly assume his righteousness, just as Christ assumed our sin. If our debts are not posted to our account, it is because someone else has legally assumed them. Christ righteousness ours, and our sin his.
They don't have a clue what you are talking about!!
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:19 PM
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They don't have a clue what you are talking about!!
Is that not what the Cross did???? Reconciled mankind back to the Father?
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:21 PM
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Is that not what the Cross did???? Reconciled mankind back to the Father?
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:45 PM
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Christ righteousness ours, and our sin his.
very humbling. need to keep this one in mind.
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They don't have a clue what you are talking about!!
Reconciliation is a two-way street...

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19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

God reconciled the world to himself by the Cross of Christ.
Every individual needs to reconcile themselves back to God by accepting the work of the Cross.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:59 PM
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The double imputation
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:08 PM
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If the world "IS" reconciled then how can world be lost?
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If the world "IS" reconciled then how can world be lost?
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Reconciliation takes more than one party, which is why Paul said be ye reconciled to God after he said God has reconciled us to himself.

Take for example, if you forgive someone who offended you but the person refuses to admit they were wrong and thus think they do not need your forgiveness, it does not mean you have not forgiven said person.

However, the relationship between you and that person will never be on friendly terms until reconciliation occurs between TWO of y'all.

So, then we would say, Truthseeker has reconciled you to himself, but you need to reconcile yourself back to truthseeker.
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So the world is not reconciled.
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