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12-05-2012, 08:59 AM
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Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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12-05-2012, 09:12 AM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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Did they show photos of Martin lying on the ground bleeding?
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12-05-2012, 09:32 AM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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Did they show photos of Martin lying on the ground bleeding?
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The point is Cindy that this photo was taken the night of the shooting and the prosecutors withheld it from the defense attorneys until now. Why? We were all made to believe from the beginning that Z did this in cold blood and yet as time passes we find out more and more about how he was under assault. If Martin was going for his gun, if he was pounding Z's head into the pavement, it certainly alters the scene from the way the media and Martin's supporters portrayed it. I'm all for fairness and full disclosure of all the info. I know it bothers me that Z was told to not pursue Martin and he did anyway. My question is did Martin fight w Z because Z provoked it? Did Z get assaulted by Martin because he approached him and asked him questions? The truth may never be known. But I don't like the one sided reporting and the presumption of guilt until proven innocent.
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12-05-2012, 09:45 AM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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The point is Cindy that this photo was taken the night of the shooting and the prosecutors withheld it from the defense attorneys until now. Why? We were all made to believe from the beginning that Z did this in cold blood and yet as time passes we find out more and more about how he was under assault. If Martin was going for his gun, if he was pounding Z's head into the pavement, it certainly alters the scene from the way the media and Martin's supporters portrayed it. I'm all for fairness and full disclosure of all the info. I know it bothers me that Z was told to not pursue Martin and he did anyway. My question is did Martin fight w Z because Z provoked it? Did Z get assaulted by Martin because he approached him and asked him questions? The truth may never be known. But I don't like the one sided reporting and the presumption of guilt until proven innocent.
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Yeah, I know. Makes you wonder that even though they were saying that is was self defense in the beginning. They had this proof and didn't turn it over to the defense until now. I think he was pretty much thought guilty in the beginning. And of course the media kind of wanted it that way, nothing sells like controversy.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-05-2012, 10:41 AM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
"It's not a game changer," Zimmerman lawyer Mark O'Mara told Reuters. But O'Mara said the photo was significant in that it shows vividly the injuries Zimmerman incurred during his confrontation with Martin at a condominium in the central Florida town on Sanford.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/trayvon-ma...#ixzz2ECSZRXjn
I've seen worst results after high school fights. What about bar fights, dance floor fights, sporting stadium brawls-- are we all justified to shoot and kill the person we get into a fist fight with?
His nose is swolen, but no proof it's broken. Defense won't release x-rays of injuries, Defense says there are none.
Bleeding spots on th back of his head are just that, spots.
To hear some speak of this, you would think zim would have been a bloody mess after all this and he had no choice but to kill the 17 year old in order to survive!
After the murder, the videos show a fully coherent zim, moving fluidly, able to describe in detail his side of the story. According to the Defense, zim didn't even need x-rays for his "life threatenting" injuries.
When is killing justified? Is killing justified in every altercation
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12-05-2012, 11:24 AM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
"It's not a game changer," Zimmerman lawyer Mark O'Mara told Reuters. But O'Mara said the photo was significant in that it shows vividly the injuries Zimmerman incurred during his confrontation with Martin at a condominium in the central Florida town on Sanford.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/trayvon-ma...#ixzz2ECSZRXjn
I've seen worst results after high school fights. What about bar fights, dance floor fights, sporting stadium brawls-- are we all justified to shoot and kill the person we get into a fist fight with?
His nose is swolen, but no proof it's broken. Defense won't release x-rays of injuries, Defense says there are none.
Bleeding spots on th back of his head are just that, spots.
To hear some speak of this, you would think zim would have been a bloody mess after all this and he had no choice but to kill the 17 year old in order to survive!
After the murder, the videos show a fully coherent zim, moving fluidly, able to describe in detail his side of the story. According to the Defense, zim didn't even need x-rays for his "life threatenting" injuries.
When is killing justified? Is killing justified in every altercation
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Jermyn, The coroner has already stated that Trayvon had visible injuries to his knuckles.
It appears Zimmerman acted in self-defense.
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12-05-2012, 12:09 PM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
I've seen worst results after high school fights. What about bar fights, dance floor fights, sporting stadium brawls-- are we all justified to shoot and kill the person we get into a fist fight with?
Think about the case in Wisconsin when two teens broke into an older gentleman's home and he shot them both.
1 teen died very quickly, but another teen didn't die right away. He then went over to the clearly bleeding and disabled teen, put a gun under her chin and, "put a bullet in her cranium."
Would you all say that he is justified in killing her too? It looks like Wisconsin law calls that man a murderer. But this is a different case in a different state.
The SYG law in Florida is a bad law! I've said it before and I'll say it again! It gives people the false sense of "security" in being able to take the life of another, without punity.
When is killing justified? Is killing justified in every altercation?
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12-05-2012, 12:23 PM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
"It's not a game changer," Zimmerman lawyer Mark O'Mara told Reuters. But O'Mara said the photo was significant in that it shows vividly the injuries Zimmerman incurred during his confrontation with Martin at a condominium in the central Florida town on Sanford.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/trayvon-ma...#ixzz2ECSZRXjn
I've seen worst results after high school fights. What about bar fights, dance floor fights, sporting stadium brawls-- are we all justified to shoot and kill the person we get into a fist fight with?
His nose is swolen, but no proof it's broken. Defense won't release x-rays of injuries, Defense says there are none.
Bleeding spots on th back of his head are just that, spots.
To hear some speak of this, you would think zim would have been a bloody mess after all this and he had no choice but to kill the 17 year old in order to survive!
After the murder, the videos show a fully coherent zim, moving fluidly, able to describe in detail his side of the story. According to the Defense, zim didn't even need x-rays for his "life threatenting" injuries.
When is killing justified? Is killing justified in every altercation
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By the time he would have been a bloody mess would he have been able to draw his weapon?
Would an incoherent Zim been able to draw a weapon? Would a paralyzed unable to move fluidly Zim been able to draw a weapon?
The law does not say "Wait until you have been incapacitated before drawing a weapon"
BTW You say you are a Republican. Is it part of the platform to reject American justice? Does "Innocent till proven Guilty" ring a bell?
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12-05-2012, 12:23 PM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
"It's not a game changer," Zimmerman lawyer Mark O'Mara told Reuters. But O'Mara said the photo was significant in that it shows vividly the injuries Zimmerman incurred during his confrontation with Martin at a condominium in the central Florida town on Sanford.
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/trayvon-ma...#ixzz2ECSZRXjn
I've seen worst results after high school fights. What about bar fights, dance floor fights, sporting stadium brawls-- are we all justified to shoot and kill the person we get into a fist fight with?
His nose is swolen, but no proof it's broken. Defense won't release x-rays of injuries, Defense says there are none.
Bleeding spots on th back of his head are just that, spots.
To hear some speak of this, you would think zim would have been a bloody mess after all this and he had no choice but to kill the 17 year old in order to survive!
After the murder, the videos show a fully coherent zim, moving fluidly, able to describe in detail his side of the story. According to the Defense, zim didn't even need x-rays for his "life threatenting" injuries.
When is killing justified? Is killing justified in every altercation
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If his nose was.broken a CT scan now would pick that up i would think.
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12-05-2012, 12:25 PM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I've seen worst results after high school fights. What about bar fights, dance floor fights, sporting stadium brawls-- are we all justified to shoot and kill the person we get into a fist fight with?
Think about the case in Wisconsin when two teens broke into an older gentleman's home and he shot them both.
1 teen died very quickly, but another teen didn't die right away. He then went over to the clearly bleeding and disabled teen, put a gun under her chin and, "put a bullet in her cranium."
Would you all say that he is justified in killing her too? It looks like Wisconsin law calls that man a murderer. But this is a different case in a different state.
The SYG law in Florida is a bad law! I've said it before and I'll say it again! It gives people the false sense of "security" in being able to take the life of another, without punity.
When is killing justified? Is killing justified in every altercation?
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I would say that's the risk you take when you break in a house armed.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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