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Sins before birth?
John 9:1 Now, as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.
9:2 And His disciples asked him , saying, " Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind."
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Why would they phrase this question like that? How can someone sin before they are born? Or is there some kind of Jewish doctrine about future sins?
Yes, I know what the next verse says, but my question is not if he sinned, but why woukd they think that someone could sin before they were born?
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05-20-2007, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
John 9:1 Now, as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.
9:2 And His disciples asked him , saying, " Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind."
NKJV
Why would they phrase this question like that? How can someone sin before they are born? Or is there some kind of Jewish doctrine about future sins?
Yes, I know what the next verse says, but my question is not if he sinned, but why woukd they think that someone could sin before they were born?
ARPH
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Ignorance of God's law dictated by Phariseeical legalism.
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05-20-2007, 08:01 PM
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Ignorance of God's law dictated by Phariseeical legalism.
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05-20-2007, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
John 9:1 Now, as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.
9:2 And His disciples asked him , saying, " Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind."
NKJV
Why would they phrase this question like that? How can someone sin before they are born? Or is there some kind of Jewish doctrine about future sins?
Yes, I know what the next verse says, but my question is not if he sinned, but why woukd they think that someone could sin before they were born?
ARPH
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They didn't think he could sin before he was born. This is from the "Berkeley International Version"
Rabbi, who sinned? Did the mans sin cause him to go blind? or Did his parents sin and he was born blind??
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05-20-2007, 11:28 PM
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They didn't think he could sin before he was born. This is from the "Berkeley International Version"
Rabbi, who sinned? Did the mans sin cause him to go blind? or Did his parents sin and he was born blind??
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so how does the "BIV" render 9:1, I just went through lots of versions at Gateway and they all said blind from birth or born blind.
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05-20-2007, 11:37 PM
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Well I'm sorry, if that helps any....
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05-21-2007, 02:04 AM
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so how does the "BIV" render 9:1, I just went through lots of versions at Gateway and they all said blind from birth or born blind.
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The bible tells us that the man was blind from birth. If the people knew this they would not have had to ask "...did the mans sins make him blind, or did his parents sin and he was born blind?"
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05-21-2007, 06:58 PM
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The bible tells us that the man was blind from birth. If the people knew this they would not have had to ask "...did the mans sins make him blind, or did his parents sin and he was born blind?"
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The disciples knew he was born blind.
Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind.
not Rabbi, who sinned? This man? Or his parents that he was born blind.
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05-23-2007, 11:03 PM
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The disciples knew he was born blind.
Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind.
not Rabbi, who sinned? This man? Or his parents that he was born blind.
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Rabi, who sinned? This man? (and he went blind.) Or his parents that he was born blind!!!!
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