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Old 09-24-2011, 05:12 PM
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Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll!

Awesome!!! 37%

Now, I could get behind Herman Cain 100%!

Perry came in second at 15%
Romney at 14%

This suggests a tight race between Perry and Romney, but people still leaning toward Perry. Pretty interesting after Thursday night's debate.
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Old 09-24-2011, 05:33 PM
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Re: Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll!

Oh, and Bachmann came in at 1%.
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Re: Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll!

my husband has liked Cain from the first
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Old 09-24-2011, 05:56 PM
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Re: Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll!

Perry is really ticking me off with his illeagl immigration stand ,Cain rocks ,i like what he said about closing the EPA the fact that they have a reg starting Jan.concerning dust says they are out of control,Amen preach it ,pretty soon you wont even be able to use a back pack blower on your driveway,They are killing the contracting business also.
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Perry is really ticking me off with his illeagl immigration stand ,Cain rocks ,i like what he said about closing the EPA the fact that they have a reg starting Jan.concerning dust says they are out of control,Amen preach it ,pretty soon you wont even be able to use a back pack blower on your driveway,They are killing the contracting business also.
The illegal immigration problem is much more involved that what it looks like on the surface. The Texas Legislature voted 184 with only 4 dissenting votes. That is veto proof, even if Perry wasn't on board with it.

Here is a well laid out article:
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Santorum’s Ill-Advised Border War

Santorum is absolutely correct about one thing: Barack Obama would not have supported the plan, which would have liberalized health-insurance regulations in Texas, allowing insurance companies — private companies — to write policies on both sides of the border, and to write policies that cover medical procedures on both sides of the border. Which is to say, Santorum was giving Perry grief for having the audacity to suggest that insurance companies ought to be allowed to sell insurance to whom they please and where they please, that consumers ought to have more choices, and that we can alleviate the costs of providing health care to the uninsured by letting markets work. No doubt Barack Obama would be opposed — but why is Rick Santorum? Two possible answers to that question: 1. He is engaging in cheap demagoguery. 2. He has no idea what he is talking about.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-d-williamson#
More in the article about Santorum's border security act (2006) points out that his act plays out to be identical to Perry's immigration policy.

1. limited strategic fencing
2. surveillance
3. increased manpower
4. technology
5. infrastructure
6. stronger federal commitment to securing the border

Also, this information shows that the Federal Government is hamstringing the states. How can you not discriminate against K-12, by the 14th Amendment and then turn around and stop them from attending college?

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Plyer v. Doe
"Revisions to education laws in Texas in 1975 withheld state funds for educating children who had not been legally admitted to the United States and authorized local school districts to deny enrollment to such students. A 5-to-4 majority of the Supreme Court found that this policy was in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment, as illegal immigrant children are people "in any ordinary sense of the term", and therefore had protection from discrimination unless a substantial state interest could be shown to justify it."

Texas officials had argued that illegal immigrants were not "within the jurisdiction" of the state and could thus not claim protections under the Fourteenth Amendment. The court majority rejected this claim, finding instead that "no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment 'jurisdiction' can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful."

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe
More detail, from Perry, who is being interview by Greta Van Susteren on the border. Specifically speaking of grants they are not getting.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/958062915...ial-candidate/
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my husband has liked Cain from the first
I have liked him from the start. I would still be surprised that he could win having never held office. I don't see handing the Presidency to a man that has never held public office. We shall see and it wouldn't bother me one bit if he did win. I'm just thinking they liked his 9-9-9 plan.
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I just heard that Romney asked some of his supporters to vote for Cain to upset Perry's lead. That hasn't yet been confirmed, but if he did, that was a diabolically clever and dishonest move.
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Re: Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll!

Cain is a first rate businessman which we desperately need, along with a strong ally for Israel and small business's He is also a Clarence Thomas type conservative.
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Cain is a first rate businessman which we desperately need, along with a strong ally for Israel and small business's He is also a Clarence Thomas type conservative.
I'm a little iffy on him taking the presidency with no policy experience. The USA is a huge and powerful country. But, if the cards are in his favor, I will vote for him.

InTrade has him at a 1.3% chance of getting the nomination and a 2% chance of getting the VP slot. We shall see how that moves along.

Perry is still sinking at 23.3%.
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Re: Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll!

The only other man to win the White House on the strength of being a "First Rate Businessman" was Herbert Hoover...
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