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07-18-2011, 06:50 PM
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Revealed or taught?
I hear lots of people saying stuff like " God revealed His oneness to me," or "the revelation of Jesus name baptism," or revealing some other thing, but it seems to me that we're exposed to these "revelations" in church, or taught in Bible studies, and when we finally understand it, it's a "revelation."
I remember when I was having trouble in geometry for a long time, than one day it just "clicked" and I got it, was that a revelation?
So does God still reveal things, or is everything learned?
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07-18-2011, 07:08 PM
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Holiness Is Still Right.
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Re: Revealed or taught?
I know an evangelist that group up in a trinitarian COGIC church, believed oneness her whole life and never knew that there was actually a church somewhere that taught what she believed until she talked to me and another minister from our church. She converted and got baptized in Jesus Name on the spot.
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07-18-2011, 07:17 PM
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Re: Revealed or taught?
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
I hear lots of people saying stuff like " God revealed His oneness to me," or "the revelation of Jesus name baptism," or revealing some other thing, but it seems to me that we're exposed to these "revelations" in church, or taught in Bible studies, and when we finally understand it, it's a "revelation."
I remember when I was having trouble in geometry for a long time, than one day it just "clicked" and I got it, was that a revelation?
So does God still reveal things, or is everything learned?
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A revelation or realization of what God's word says
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-18-2011, 09:36 PM
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Re: Revealed or taught?
We have this topic in another thread with a lot of discussion on it. If I knew the title I would link it.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-18-2011, 09:38 PM
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Re: Revealed or taught?
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-19-2011, 10:23 AM
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Jesus is the only Lord God
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Re: Revealed or taught?
Luke 10:22
All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
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07-19-2011, 10:43 AM
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Re: Revealed or taught?
What do you think that means TG?
Is it a theological comprehension, or a revelation of Christ to the inner man?
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-19-2011, 12:33 PM
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Re: Revealed or taught?
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
I hear lots of people saying stuff like " God revealed His oneness to me," or "the revelation of Jesus name baptism," or revealing some other thing, but it seems to me that we're exposed to these "revelations" in church, or taught in Bible studies, and when we finally understand it, it's a "revelation."
I remember when I was having trouble in geometry for a long time, than one day it just "clicked" and I got it, was that a revelation?
So does God still reveal things, or is everything learned?
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"Revelation" as it applies to God's activity is a supernatural imparting of knowledge and/or understanding to an individual. This does not mean that this same knowledge/understanding cannot be taught by one individual (once known) to another- it can.
A good example of this is the teaching of the Apostle Paul. The "mystery" of the Gospel was revealed to him by God himself, but he was able to teach this mystery to others- they didn't need direct revelation in order to receive it and comprehend it.
A century ago, a few people were said to have received the revelation of the "mighty God in Christ". This revelation was taught to others. Today, God can still choose to impart this revelation directly to individuals, but the information contained in the revelation can and most often does get imparted through teaching. 
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