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Old 05-02-2011, 01:55 PM
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John 3:34

John 3:34 is a verse among several in the last part of that 3rd chapter of John where John the Baptist was asked about Jesus. In verse 25 John was asked a question. His answer is found in the following verses. It is not clear to me whether his answer stops and the Apostle John adds comment or if these are all the words of John the Baptist.

The verse I am wondering about says: "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him."

The words "unto him" are in italics which meant they are not in the original but were added by the translators for clarity.

A note in my Bible here, not sure where I heard it or read it, says:
"The Jews said that the prophets received a portion or certain measure of the Spirit. The full measure was reserved for the Chosen One."

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Old 05-02-2011, 02:27 PM
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Re: John 3:34

The full measure would be the absolute and total fullness of the Spirit. Only God Himself could handle that. Proves further to me the fact that Christ is indeed God manifested in the flesh.
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Re: John 3:34

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John 3:34 is a verse among several in the last part of that 3rd chapter of John where John the Baptist was asked about Jesus. In verse 25 John was asked a question. His answer is found in the following verses. It is not clear to me whether his answer stops and the Apostle John adds comment or if these are all the words of John the Baptist.

The verse I am wondering about says: "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him."

The words "unto him" are in italics which meant they are not in the original but were added by the translators for clarity.

A note in my Bible here, not sure where I heard it or read it, says:
"The Jews said that the prophets received a portion or certain measure of the Spirit. The full measure was reserved for the Chosen One."

What think ye?

That is exactly my position ..Jesus was anointed like no other..this is why and how He was able to do the things He did.How is it when we look at the things Moses did in the presence of Pharaoh we understand Moses was not the one performing the miracles but rather it was God acting through him.Moses wrote in Deut 18 that God would raise up a Prophet LIKE Moses..just my thought
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That is exactly my position ..Jesus was anointed like no other..this is why and how He was able to do the things He did.How is it when we look at the things Moses did in the presence of Pharaoh we understand Moses was not the one performing the miracles but rather it was God acting through him.Moses wrote in Deut 18 that God would raise up a Prophet LIKE Moses..just my thought
That would be everyone's position, that Jesus was anointed like no other
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That would be everyone's position, that Jesus was anointed like no other
I understand this is how He did the miracles..not because He was God..
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I understand this is how He did the miracles..not because He was God..
I understand that is HOW he did the miracles too.

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I understand this is how He did the miracles..not because He was God..
But, He was and is God. So both in the anointing and in His identity.
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