Response to WPF Fireball thread: AN Lying Again

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Apostolic News was live on the scene

http://www.apostolicnews.org/2011/01...al-conference/

Unable to respond to the Fellowship Hall's WPF Fireball thread, as per Admin so I will do so here ...

It appears that Paul B and his yellow journalistic phantom staff have decided to make the bolide meteor sighting seen over the South Eastern United States on the night of January 11th into an epic "Azusa" style event in which a God responded to the holiness preaching at a Baton Rouge country church ... Socialite has been ahead of this story ... before AN got to twisting, distorting and manipulating its readership.

BATON ROUGE – January 28, 2011. At the recent Vertical Conference hosted in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, it was reported by a number of people that a “ball of fire” had went down behind the church. ABC reported the incident as a “flash of light.” Rev. Tony Spell noticed that just after Rev. Johnny King finished preaching, that there were many officers outside with flashlights.

One of the deputies motioned to him to come outside. He told him that they were dispatched to the site after several people in the vicinity of the church noticed the ball of fire.

The deputy sheriff, who was a former member of the church, said that they had searched the whole area and could not find what they suspected to be a meteorite. He then stated, “It must have been another Azusa Street happening. It’s about time for me to come home.” The next Sunday he was in church.

This despite the wealth of data and news report that states this was seen in various southeaster states such as Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida ... among others.

http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/...-2011_8-49-am/

http://arkansasmatters.com/news-weir...?nxd_id=382776

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/...137947&catid=2

http://www.clarionledger.com/article...-causes-uproar

The article stated that the American Meteor Society somehow rejected the notion that this was a meteor:

The following day after the fireball sighting, the American Meteor Society showed up looking for the the supposed meteorite. After searching for two days, they finally gave up and concluded it was not a meteor.

This despite the multitude of reports, not specific to Baton Rouge, made concerning the 1/11 southeastern bolide on the American Meteor Society here:

http://www.katc.com/news/huge-fireba...-southeast-us/

http://www.amsmeteors.org/fireball2/...t=Find+Reports

Or the fact that the AMS simply builds a database of reports for scientific study or that NASA and others scientific agencies worldwide have confirmed this bolide siting ...

NASA Huntsville has confirmed that the bolide which exploded over Mississippi on Jan 11, 2011 is a "meter class" object yielding an explosive equivilent of roughly 80 tons of TNT and weighing over a metric ton at detonation. Original estimates put the object's size at 21 inches diameter and weighing 171 kilograms. In an ELPALLSKY interview with the Director of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office in Huntsville AL, Dr. Bill Cooke, at 16:45 MST 01/13/11, Cooke says "the meteor exploded at a high altitude and likely scattered fragments over a large area". Cooke also said "infrasound signatures from the event place the debris fall zone over Jackson Mississippi". This coincides with the original thinking of Dirk Ross Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News of Tokyo, Japan who theorized Jackson as the potential fall zone just after the event time of 20:45 CST on 1/11/11

http://elpasoallsky.blogspot.com/201...sing-size.html

On the night of Tuesday, Jan. 11, an extremely bright fireball meteor streaked over Jackson, Miss., and was visible across several southern states. NASA astronomer Bill Cooke of the Meteoroid Environment Office at Marshall Space Flight Center confirms the meteor below.

Okay folks, can confirm that this was indeed a fireball or bolide. Unfortunately no video of the actual meteor has surfaced, so I requested an analysis of signals from North American infrasound stations. We had one very clear detection, from the ELFO station in Canada, and a marginal signal at another station east of the visual sightings. Unfortunately the marginal signal is too weak to permit extraction of much information or to triangulate.

The ELFO signal arrived at 10:05:50 PM Central time, some 1 hour and 20 minutes after the event, and came in at an azimuth of 210 degrees. If you look at the attached plot, the black curved line shows the path of the ELFO signal, which intersects nicely with the bulk of the visual observations -- indicated by the red dot -- around Jackson, Mississippi (ELFO az gives 32 deg N, 89 deg W -- Jackson is at 32 deg N, 90 deg W).

http://elpasoallsky.blogspot.com/201...sing-size.html

Paul. you're a learned man ... people were fornicating ... smoking ... drinking ... watching TV all over the Southeast United States ... hundreds were gathered at "denominal" churches during this time ...

and GOD WAS PUTTING HIS STAMP OF APPROVAL ON THIS ONE CONFERENCE BECAUSE TIM SPELL AND YOUR SUGAR DADDYS SO ?????

Rev. Tony Spell, the pastor of the church, talked to every eye witness of the happening and they all described the same event. Rev. Spell stated, “Every message in the conference was geared toward truth and holiness. The motto of the conference was “Transferring Truth to the Next Generation.” I believe God was just putting his stamp of approval on the conference!”

[DAII]

Admin, is there a glitch? I can't go back and edit my posts.

[DAII]

God's Stamp of Holiness preaching in Baton Rouge, LA seen on this surveillance video in Mississippi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iCwI...layer_embedded

[DAII]

The irony ... the motto of the conference was “Transferring Truth to the Next Generation.”

You hate truth, Paul ... you'd rather censor it ... like so many.

[Justin]

Maybe God sent this UFO/"Angel" to confirm the "truths" of Islam as He "confirmed" the truth at the WPF meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ&NR=1

[DAII]

Justin, how does a man like Paul Baumeister ...

Chief co-editor of Apostolic News, executive administrator of the Apostolic School of Theology with a Masters from Vanguard and a PHd from Regent get involved in propogating such falsehoods, myths and fables.

Baron can we confirm this PHd at. Regent?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Justin

Maybe God sent this UFO/"Angel" to confirm the "truths" of Islam as He "confirmed" the truth at the WPF meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-bNOy_CKQ&NR=1

Yeah... that is an interesting video.

There was a comet like object in the sky of Kazakhstan at the very same moment.

[DAII]

De veras, Pablo ... El pueblo de Dios merece mucho mas que esta falsa manipulacion ...

Que poca verguenza!

[Digging4Truth]

I don't know if you're aware or not DA but... this isn't anything new. It is generally attributed to a strong "God is on my side and not on your side" mentality.

The biggest issue, to me, isn't that they made the claim. People do that. They get all excited and make a claim out of their enthusiasm and I'm sure they actually thought that this was a sign from God etc.

The issue is that now that time has passed and information has come to light they need to be man enough to own up to the false conclusion they came to.

I would feel safe going with the assumption that there was no intentional lying... just exuberant staking of claims. But... they need to clear the air now and there are better ways of bring these things about than going around calling people liars and making statements that make them feel as sure as rain that if they DID come out and straighten things out that there would be another round of ridicule then too.

If railing on people is being apostolic you, my friend, are more apostolic than anyone I have ever known or ever hope to know.

And, believe me, there is no lost love in me for the WPF crowd. I just try to see and approach things from a "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" frame of mind.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Yeah... that is an interesting video.

There was a comet like object in the sky of Kazakhstan at the very same moment.

Pulling these type of hooey tactics may have worked for centuries - maybe even 50 years but do these demagogues think this will stand the truth test during the information digital age?

Rather than black listing sites and forums on their blogs and mid-week sermons, why not speak truth?