How to Recognize Death Panels

[A.W. Bowman]

Not all decision makers have a name tag.

Rationing Meds Of course, this course of action was started long before Obamacare. However, unless this trend is stopped, it will continue. For most folks, this is still a 'non-issue'. That is, until they are the ones directly affected.

See? Here is the meds that might save your life - or at least prolong it for a while. But, since you are no longer viewed as a productive economic unit, you don''t qualify. May your final days not be burdensome on society.

[Digging4Truth]

We are just cattle to the elite.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by HaShaliach

Not all decision makers have a name tag.

Rationing Meds Of course, this course of action was started long before Obamacare. However, unless this trend is stopped, it will continue. For most folks, this is still a 'non-issue'. That is, until they are the ones directly affected.

See? Here is the meds that might save your life - or at least prolong it for a while. But, since you are no longer viewed as a productive economic unit, you don''t qualify. May your final days not be burdensome on society.

My MIL and the family experienced, what I believe, to be just the case. At the very least she experienced the mentality that is taking us there.

[Walks_in_islam]

I suppose putting the uninsured into a taxi and dumping them around the corner is not the equivalent of a death panel? If so, then you already have death panels.

I suppose lists of "preferred" medications and "non-preferred" medications and "non-covered" medications is not the equivalent of a death panel? If so, then you already have them.

[Light]

Arizona's republican governor has already formed a death panel for a poor man with liver problems. This man had a liver from a donner but because of the governors policy she stopped the transplant. The liver went to someone else. He will die within a year unless he can raise half a million dollars.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Light

Arizona's republican governor has already formed a death panel for a poor man with liver problems. This man had a liver from a donner but because of the governors policy she stopped the transplant. The liver went to someone else. He will die within a year unless he can raise half a million dollars.

He can get a transplant. It just won't be free.

By Phil Galewitz

KHN Staff Writer

Sep 30, 2010


In Arizona, about 640,000 adult Medicaid recipients will lose coverage tomorrow for podiatry care, insulin pumps and most dental services. In Washington, D.C., in November, doctors who treat 250,000 Medicaid patients are scheduled to see their fees cut 20 percent.

These are some of the newest cutbacks in Medicaid as states grapple with surging enrollment -- and spending -- in the government health insurance program for the poor that covers nearly 49 million Americans

Light, the state doesn't collect for medicare. The feds did. The state pays it and much more.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I suppose putting the uninsured into a taxi and dumping them around the corner is not the equivalent of a death panel? If so, then you already have death panels.

I suppose lists of "preferred" medications and "non-preferred" medications and "non-covered" medications is not the equivalent of a death panel? If so, then you already have them.

Apples and Bombardier Beetles.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I suppose putting the uninsured into a taxi and dumping them around the corner is not the equivalent of a death panel? If so, then you already have death panels.

I suppose lists of "preferred" medications and "non-preferred" medications and "non-covered" medications is not the equivalent of a death panel? If so, then you already have them.

Wii - I do not believe you are speaking from experience about medications.
I deal with this every day and there is no "regular" medicine that would be denied someone, if it was needed.
The pharmaceutical companies themselves have programs that individuals who cannot afford the drugs can apply to and purchase the medications at a reduced rate.
Now it is not "given" to them, but they have to be willing to help with the process.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by coadie

He can get a transplant. It just won't be free.

By Phil Galewitz

KHN Staff Writer

Sep 30, 2010


In Arizona, about 640,000 adult Medicaid recipients will lose coverage tomorrow for podiatry care, insulin pumps and most dental services. In Washington, D.C., in November, doctors who treat 250,000 Medicaid patients are scheduled to see their fees cut 20 percent.

These are some of the newest cutbacks in Medicaid as states grapple with surging enrollment -- and spending -- in the government health insurance program for the poor that covers nearly 49 million Americans

Light, the state doesn't collect for medicare. The feds did. The state pays it and much more.

If he already had a donor, how did the Governor's policies affect him so that now he does not have a donor?

[Light]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

If he already had a donor, how did the Governor's policies affect him so that now he does not have a donor?

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) commented recently on the cuts to her state's Health Care Cost Containment System, which have imperiled the lives of some patients in need of an organ transplant. Brewer said that people branding the cuts as a real-life incarnation of "death panels" should be asking the federal government to send more money -- a perhaps surprising position from someone who continues to oppose the federal health care reform legislation passed earlier this year.

Brewer has declined to hold a special session to reinstate the funds, a refusal that leaves some patients' lives hanging in the balance.

Britain's Channel 4 reports on a recent encounter with Gov. Brewer regarding the matter:

"How many people have to die before you are prepared to reverse your decision on the transplant operations?" seemed like the obvious question.
She said she thought that was unfair and started to explain how dire the state's financial situation is. If people are so worried about the transplant patients then they should ask the federal government in Washington to send us more money, she said. But she would not explain to me, or to any Democrats in the state capitol, what she has done with the nearly $200 million she was already given in 'stimulus funds' to spend on anything she liked.