Genesis 5:28 - on Noah?

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In my daily Bible reading I never really noticed this verse before.

Genesis 5:29 "And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed."

What does it mean and what is it talking about? What changed with Noah?

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I once considered that verse and here is my thought.

God cursed the ground for man to have to work to eat bread. The ground would bring up thorns and thistles making cultivation very hard. For the first time, mankind was allowed to eat meat in Noahs' day. This alleviated work to raise and cultivate crops. In the beginning, God planted the trees of the Garden, and Adam had it made. No work to do. God prepared it already. Man only had to maintain it. But when the curse occurred, man had to work the ground to eat food. Allowing man to eat meat somewhat alleviated that work since no work on the ground was necessary for meat.

But more significantly, God said he would not curse the ground for man's sake any more due to Noah's sacrifice after the flood was over.

I think Noah is a type of Jesus as well. Jesus is the true Noah whose ark of His body saved us by having us come into Christ's death as into an ark, that we may pass through death like a flood and come out the other side free of sin. So there is a prophetic picture of Jesus as well.

Noah's name actually means REST.

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When God smelled a sweet savour from Noah's sacrifice, the literal Hebrew actually says a RESTFUL savour.

Genesis 8:21 KJV And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

H5207
ניחח ניחוח
nı̂ychôach nı̂ychôach
nee-kho'-akh, nee-kho'-akh
From H5117; properly restful, that is, pleasant; abstractly delight: - sweet (odour).

So many things of Noah remind us of Adam's creation. Both were told to replenish the earth. Both were even told to eat certain things and not other things.

Genesis 2:16-17 KJV And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: (17) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Genesis 9:3-4 KJV Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. (4) But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

I once saw a thought there of how the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil had one thing in it that the others did not have - DESIRE TO MAKE ONE WISE. And it was the killer. Same with Noah's meat. The forbidden meat had one thing in it the others did not have -- blood. So the meat with animal blood in it is spiritually similar to the forbidden fruit. And it shows a beautiful message. Meat must have the BLOOD SHED in order for man to not die. This of course reminds us of the cross. Jesus' shed blood. Fruit of Life!

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More associated statements with Adam and Noah:

ADAM
Genesis 1:28 KJV And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:

NOAH
Genesis 9:1 KJV And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth...
Genesis 9:7 KJV And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

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ADAM:
Genesis 1:28b ...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

NOAH:
Genesis 9:2 KJV And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

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ADAM:
Genesis 1:29 KJV And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Genesis 2:16 KJV And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

NOAH:
Genesis 9:3 KJV Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

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ADAM:
Genesis 2:17 KJV But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

NOAH:
Genesis 9:4 KJV But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
Genesis 9:5-6 KJV And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. (6) Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

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AND ADAM AND NOAH SINNED BY EATING and NAKEDNESS was associated with it:

ADAM:
Genesis 3:6-7 KJV And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (7) And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

NOAH:
Genesis 9:20-21 KJV And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: (21) And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

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THEN A CURSE:

ADAM:
Genesis 3:17 KJV And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

NOAH:
Genesis 9:25 KJV And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

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Thanks, Bro. Blume. I did know that Noah's name meant rest.

I see the difference in the garden - eating the fruit and in Noah - adding the meat as well. That is still a bit of a toil, isn't it? Wasn't Esau exhausted from his hunting trip and sold his birthright for a bowl of beans? LOL!

Genesis 8:21 KJV And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

Would the rest simply be referring to the flood and God promising that would not happen again?

Thanks for the scriptures that link similarities to Adam and Noah.

I liked this as well:

I once saw a thought there of how the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil had one thing in it that the others did not have - DESIRE TO MAKE ONE WISE. And it was the killer. Same with Noah's meat. The forbidden meat had one thing in it the others did not have -- blood. So the meat with animal blood in it is spiritually similar to the forbidden fruit. And it shows a beautiful message. Meat must have the BLOOD SHED in order for man to not die. This of course reminds us of the cross. Jesus' shed blood. Fruit of Life!

Thanks again! Seriously, I knew you would be the first to respond to this thread! LOL!

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Thanks, Bro. Blume. I did know that Noah's name meant rest.

I see the difference in the garden - eating the fruit and in Noah - adding the meat as well. That is still a bit of a toil, isn't it? Wasn't Esau exhausted from his hunting trip and sold his birthright for a bowl of beans? LOL!

There is labour in hunting, but the curse was specifically speaking of toil with the ground for man's sake, which God did in Genesis 3.

Would the rest simply be referring to the flood and God promising that would not happen again?

Thanks for the scriptures that link similarities to Adam and Noah.

I liked this as well:



Thanks again! Seriously, I knew you would be the first to respond to this thread! LOL!

Seems there is a lot involved in the rest.

I love Genesis' first few chapters!

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Originally Posted by mfblume

There is labour in hunting, but the curse was specifically speaking of toil with the ground for man's sake, which God did in Genesis 3.

I need to think on this a little more. Thanks for the scriptures.

Seems there is a lot involved in the rest.

Isaiah 28:11 "For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. (12) To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing:

I love Genesis' first few chapters!

Yes, I love them also! I've focused a lot of the NT the last couple of years and decided to get out my One Year Bible and read that. I don't have the intention of finishing in one year. I want to study it more slowly this time around.

I don't like to stay in the OT for a lengthy amount of time. I have to consistently be reading something in the NT, so the One Year Bible is a good choice for me.

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The great message of Noah's story is that there is somewhat of a note of recovery from a curse in Genesis 3.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

The great message of Noah's story is that there is somewhat of a note of recovery from a curse in Genesis 3.

Right, the simple point. LOL! I can feel that weaving all the way to Revelation, but I can't put it all together right now.

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Amen. There is a spiritual aspect to this as well, which is the larger issue. The curse involved work for food. The Garden situation was one where God exerted all the work and planted the Garden Himself. Man just entered into it and enjoyed it and maintained it. Same with salvation. We do not work for salvation. God provided it and we enter in, enjoy and maintain it.

The seventh day of REST was a message of recovery to pre-fall status where there is no work.

This was foreshadowed by Noah's day when it was like man went into a new creation with sinners removed. But it was not the real new creation we have now.

In Joshua's day, God told Israel that He gave them houses they never built and vineyards they never planted. This is a reminder of the pre-fall state as well. They would enter into this place that foreshadowed the Garden with work already done for them, as Adam entered into the Garden with all the work done.

When Israel entered the land, Joshua dictated to them the blessings and the cursings at Mt. Gerizim and Mt. Ebal. The ark was between them both. It was like Adam's first command again. If Israel chose God's law then they would be blessed. But cursings were listed should they disobey. This was at SYCHAR or Shechem.

Jesus was at that same location where the woman at the well was. Jesus told the disciples that they would enter into a harvest they never planted. Someone else worked and they would reap. Same picture again and again.

Salvation is this restored Garden.

And in Revelation there is no more curse. The tree of life is there. And we have come the heavenly Jerusalem.

Even the year of jubilee was a reminder of the pre-fall state. Prisoners were set free. Land sold due to poverty were returned.

The sabbath year was also a reminder of the pre-fall state. The land was blessed every seven years to bring forth a double portion while no work was bestowed on the land!