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Old 09-17-2009, 09:36 AM
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Birther case thrown out, sanctions threatened

In an interview with TPM just now, Birther evangelist Orly Taitz fired back at Clay Land, the U.S. district court judge who tore apart Birtherism and threatened Taitz with sanctions in an order today, saying that "somebody should consider trying [the judge] for treason and aiding and abetting this massive fraud known as Barack Hussein Obama."

"This is so outrageous what this judge did -- it goes in the face of law and order," said Taitz, reached at her office in Mission Viego, CA. "Not every judge is as corrupt as Judge Land. Some judges believe in the Constitution. And some judges believe in the rule of law."

The withering 14-page order by Land, a George W. Bush appointee, tossed out a "birther soldier" case brought by Taitz and Army Capt. Connie Rhodes, who wants to defy a deployment order because she believes Barack Obama does not legitimately possess the presidency.

A clearly frustrated Land called Taitz's suit -- the second filed in the Middle District of Georgia -- "frivolous" and threatened her with sanctions if she kept at it.

I asked Taitz what she will do next with the Rhodes case, which was filed and tossed out in another district before it was refiled with Land. "This is the decision of Connie," she said. "I will be talking to her and making a decision."

And if Rhodes is open to continuing the fight, would Taitz go along?

"Oh absolutely, absolutely," she said. "Listen, Nelson Mandela stayed in prison for years in order to get to the truth and justice."

And Taitz brushed off the possibility of sanctions. "I'm not afraid of sanctions. Because I know this is not frivolous. I know this is extremely important -- the most important issue in this country today."

"Judge Land is a typical puppet of the regime -- just like in the Soviet Union," she said.


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Old 09-17-2009, 10:29 AM
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In an interview with TPM just now, Birther evangelist Orly Taitz fired back at Clay Land, the U.S. district court judge who tore apart Birtherism and threatened Taitz with sanctions in an order today, saying that "somebody should consider trying [the judge] for treason and aiding and abetting this massive fraud known as Barack Hussein Obama."

"This is so outrageous what this judge did -- it goes in the face of law and order," said Taitz, reached at her office in Mission Viego, CA. "Not every judge is as corrupt as Judge Land. Some judges believe in the Constitution. And some judges believe in the rule of law."

The withering 14-page order by Land, a George W. Bush appointee, tossed out a "birther soldier" case brought by Taitz and Army Capt. Connie Rhodes, who wants to defy a deployment order because she believes Barack Obama does not legitimately possess the presidency.

A clearly frustrated Land called Taitz's suit -- the second filed in the Middle District of Georgia -- "frivolous" and threatened her with sanctions if she kept at it.

I asked Taitz what she will do next with the Rhodes case, which was filed and tossed out in another district before it was refiled with Land. "This is the decision of Connie," she said. "I will be talking to her and making a decision."

And if Rhodes is open to continuing the fight, would Taitz go along?

"Oh absolutely, absolutely," she said. "Listen, Nelson Mandela stayed in prison for years in order to get to the truth and justice."

And Taitz brushed off the possibility of sanctions. "I'm not afraid of sanctions. Because I know this is not frivolous. I know this is extremely important -- the most important issue in this country today."

"Judge Land is a typical puppet of the regime -- just like in the Soviet Union," she said.


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That cooky attorney sounds like someone coadie should get in touch with and give her all of his "information" that proves Barack Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. Sounds like this attorney might work herself out of a law license if she isn't careful.
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:44 AM
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That cooky attorney sounds like someone coadie should get in touch with and give her all of his "information" that proves Barack Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. Sounds like this attorney might work herself out of a law license if she isn't careful.
Sanctions is not equal to losing your license. You can get sanctions for a variety of things. The bar associations handles your license not the judge.
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Sanctions is not equal to losing your license. You can get sanctions for a variety of things. The bar associations handles your license not the judge.
I'm well aware of that Baron and I also know that if an attorney is cited and sanctioned several times the Bar association can jerk the license. This lady says she's willing to pursue it even after the admonishion from the judge.
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I'm well aware of that Baron and I also know that if an attorney is cited and sanctioned several times the Bar association can jerk the license. This lady says she's willing to pursue it even after the admonishion from the judge.
Look, this is a political thing and has nothing to do with the law. The judge says the President does not have the burden of proof to show he is an American citizen.

Now in most cases that is true the Plaintiff has the burden of proof. But think about it, the court is saying we will not let you proceed with your case and through discovery obtain a document that is in the control of the Defendant and we have no access to it otherwise.

If I file a discrimination claim against the government I have the burden of proof. However, if I present a plausible argument that I can prove my case IF I get the email that is in the control of the government I get to proceed with my case and through discovery get access to the document that I am basing my claim on.
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This is a great quote from Judge Land's ruling on this case.

"Finally, in a remarkable shifting of the traditional legal burden of proof, plaintiff unashamedly alleges that defendant has the burden to prove his ‘natural born’ status,” Land states. “Any middle school civics student would readily recognize the irony of abandoning fundamental principles upon which our country was founded in order to purportedly ‘protect and preserve’ those very principles.

“Unlike in ‘Alice in Wonderland,’ simply saying something is so does not make it so,” Land says."
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