Stupid Lawsuit Get Supreme Court Conference

[deacon blues]

Suit contesting Barack Obama's citizenship heads to U.S. Supreme Court Friday
Justices will decide whether to consider the case

By James Janega | Tribune reporter
December 4, 2008

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's election.

The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.

The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells.

Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.

Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain [and] USA Govt." The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."

The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court denied an application for an injunction and hasn't scheduled a conference on other aspects of the case. Earlier, a federal judge rejected it for "lack of standing"—ruling that Berg had no legal right to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of California at Los Angeles.

The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells. Because it was referred by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.

Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard—and not all of those ultimately were successful.

[meBNme]

This not good IMO.

I strongly oppose Obama's political social and constitutional stands.
I voted against him.

But if this were to happen, I 100% believe it will be very bad for this country.

You think there are race issues now? Magnify it 100 fold and you may touch what it would be like then.

every Obama supporter and many McCain voters would believe the election was stolen from him by the waskally wepublicans, and more importantly, by racist bigots.

Racism, and racist violence would erupt across the country.


He won, we need to leave it alone.
Fight his policies, try to curb the negative effects he has on the country, and PROVIDE A GOOD CONCERVATIVE CANDIDATE FOR 2012.

But they need to drop this birth certificate thing.


I was all for it during the nominations, and early into the general race.

The closer it came to be evident that Obama actually could win the white house, the less I supported it. I absolutely oppose it now.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by meBNme

This not good IMO.

I strongly oppose Obama's political social and constitutional stands.
I voted against him.

But if this were to happen, I 100% believe it will be very bad for this country.

You think there are race issues now? Magnify it 100 fold and you may touch what it would be like then.

every Obama supporter and many McCain voters would believe the election was stolen from him by the waskally wepublicans, and more importantly, by racist bigots.

Racism, and racist violence would erupt across the country.


He won, we need to leave it alone.
Fight his policies, try to curb the negative effects he has on the country, and PROVIDE A GOOD CONCERVATIVE CANDIDATE FOR 2012.

But they need to drop this birth certificate thing.


I was all for it during the nominations, and early into the general race.

The closer it came to be evident that Obama actually could win the white house, the less I supported it. I absolutely oppose it now.

I don't see how we can possibly even HAVE an opinion on it. Facts are facts. How we "feel" can't possibly change the laws.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I don't see how we can possibly even HAVE an opinion on it. Facts are facts. How we "feel" can't possibly change the laws.

We can always have an opinion.

It might not matter a hill O beans, but we can always have one LOL

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I don't see how we can possibly even HAVE an opinion on it. Facts are facts. How we "feel" can't possibly change the laws.

I'm sure the Supreme Court will throw it out and there will be no action.
Barack Obama has been voted in as President.
Perhaps he is not legally qualified but I don't think there will be any change to the election results.

[Jermyn Davidson]

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!


This will get NOWHERE!!!

Wanna know why? Because the whole thing is groundless!

Internet rumors gone awry and the hurt feelings of sore losers are the wheels on this debacle.

It would be even funnier if precious tax dollars were not being spent on something so frivolous and obviously politically motivated.

[IsolatedSaint]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!


This will get NOWHERE!!!

Wanna know why? Because the whole thing is groundless!

Internet rumors gone awry and the hurt feelings of sore losers are the wheels on this debacle.

It already has....that's the problem, they knew all along about Obama's citizenship issues from the getgo but how they decide to play this thing out is anybody's guess.....this is looking real bad from all angles and it's all being done on purpose by design.

1. If Obama gets ousted.....you have riots and blood in the streets which sets us up for a national emergency to be declared which means the constitution gets suspended and we are in full blown martial law;
OR
2. They bullskate him through the Dec 15 electors convening and the subsequent Jan 20 coronation....but wait, Obama would still be an illegal alien/usurper(I'm only basing my opinion on the fact that he's reluctant to furnish adequate proof of citizenship.)and subject at any time to be ousted. Now this scenario would be better because I believe after some time people will be sick of Obama anyway and you would have no riots in the streets.

Debating about whether he is or he isn't is not the point, the point is what is the agenda behind all this.

And as far as sore losers are concerned, sir, your barking up the wrong tree with that, because the real intelligent people on this board know it doesn't really matter who's president anyway.

[Jermyn Davidson]

•"Hawaiian officials will not confirm" that Obama was born in their state, Schulz says.

Initially, Hawaiian officials said that privacy laws prevented them from releasing a copy or confirming that Obama's copy was authentic. But in late October as questions persisted, Hawaii's health director and head of vital statistics reviewed Obama's birth certificate in the department's vault and vouched for its authenticity.

•Schulz says that legal affidavits state Obama was born in Kenya.

The affidavits that Schulz refers to are filings by the Obama critics themselves in the court cases challenging Obama's citizenship.

•Obama's paternal grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended Obama's birth in Kenya, Schulz says.

The group's Web site posted what it says is a transcript of a long-distance phone conversation in Swahili and English from late October between a questioner in the United States and Sarah Hussein Obama, in her Kenyan home. The translator said he was one of two interpreters conducting the interview in a crowded hut during a celebration, over a speaker phone that dropped the call three times. A copy of the recording was not provided by Schulz.

• Schulz says that "U.S. law in effect in 1961 [the year of Obama's birth] denied citizenship to any child born in Kenya if the father was Kenyan and the mother was not yet 19 years of age."

If a child is born in the United States—as Hawaiian officials state that Obama was—that child is a U.S. citizen regardless of his or her parents' nationalities. If born to an American parent outside the U.S., the law at the time would require the U.S. citizen parent to be at least 19, which Obama's mother was not. The provisions of this law were subsequently loosened and made retroactive for government employees serving abroad and their families. It appears that this would not apply to Obama's mother. The matter would seem to be academic: Hawaiian officials vouch for Obama's birth certificate.

•Schulz says that in 1965, Obama's mother relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and Obama had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.

U.S. law lists the specific acts and formal procedures necessary to relinquish U.S. nationality. The statute requires the acts be performed voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing one's nationality. In many instances, one must be 18 to renounce one's citizenship. Obama moved to Indonesia in 1968 and moved back to Hawaii while still in grade school. There is no indication that Obama renounced his U.S. citizenship.

Schulz supports his argument with a reproduced Indonesian school document that states Obama's citizenship at that time as "Indonesian." But the same document also lists Obama's birthplace as " Honolulu, Hawaii."




Regardless, this whole thing is stupid and so obviously politically motivated!!!

[IsolatedSaint]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Suit contesting Barack Obama's citizenship heads to U.S. Supreme Court Friday
Justices will decide whether to consider the case

By James Janega | Tribune reporter
December 4, 2008

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's election.

The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.

The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells.

Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.

Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain [and] USA Govt." The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."

The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court denied an application for an injunction and hasn't scheduled a conference on other aspects of the case. Earlier, a federal judge rejected it for "lack of standing"—ruling that Berg had no legal right to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of California at Los Angeles.

The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells. Because it was referred by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.

Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard—and not all of those ultimately were successful.

All of the sudden, the mainstream media is reporting on this after a most deafening silence the last 3 months. Something is up with this and it's not going to be good. If they push Obama through now I will be surprised.

[IsolatedSaint]

Originally Posted by Sam

I'm sure the Supreme Court will throw it out and there will be no action.
Barack Obama has been voted in as President.
Perhaps he is not legally qualified but I don't think there will be any change to the election results.

Voted in by who? That doesn't matter(never has). The American people have yet to learn(but they will) that there voting counts for nothing. If the supreme court throws this out consider it a reprieve from the inevitable constitutional disasters that lie ahead in the future Obama regime. Either way this goes it's going to get ugly.
I guess the Mainstream media has finally started reporting on this, BUT WHY? There is an agenda behind all this. There is nothing more that the new world order wants than to create riots and bedlam and anarchy and bloodshed and race wars among the populace. This sets the stage for martial law.
All the Obamabots need to quit worshipping Obama so they won't full into this trap being set for them.