A Reminder: Why I'm Voting Again' Obama & 4 McCain

deacon blues · #1 09-23-2008, 04:07 PM

I am listening to Ahmedinejhad of Iran addressing the UN. SCCCAAAAARRRYYYYYYYYYYY! The man is a first-class nut job! He denegrated the US throughout his speech and spoke evil of Israel.

Disciples of Jesus Christ! Jesus is not coming back because of the US economy. Jesus is not coming back because of the war on terror in Iraq or Afghanistan. Jesus is not coming back because of liberal/conservative culture wars. JESUS IS COMING BACK BECAUSE THE WORLD WILL TURN AGAINST ISRAEL!

If there is any reason to vote FOR McCain, and AGAINST Obama it is because of this very reason! McCain has always been pro-Israel. Obama has changed some of his language since running for president but has gone on record speaking in favor of meeting with this enemy of Israel and negotiatiing with him. His pastor Jeremiah Wright has spoken against Israel and in favor of the Palestinains many times.

Obama has found a home in the anti-Israel, pro-Islamic Jihad community of Nation of Islam Leader, Louis Farrakahn and the Black Power movement.

Obama made a comment in March 2007 that "no one is suffering more [in the Middle East] than the Palestinians." All the fine supportive comments made by Obama to Jewish voters are betrayed by this observation: Obama singled out the Palestinians as those who have suffered the most.

You can't have Zbigniew Brzezinski a part of your foreign policy braintrust (whom Obama explicitly defended when challenged) and say you're a friend of Israel. And before you take Obama at his word at this, compare his comments at a Washington D.C. rally for Darfur to his post-candidacy statements, where he reversed his position on the right to intervene and said genocide "is not the criteria" (he said this in defending his position that he'll pull troops from Iraq even if it means genocide there).

Consider: if Obama takes office there will be immense pressure to get Arab good will to help extricate the U.S. out of Iraq. Pressure on Israel would be a great PR move on the Arab street. This is what Brzezinski constantly argues. If Obama is elected and it comes to pass, you were warned.

mizpeh · #2 09-23-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

I am listening to Ahmedinejhad of Iran addressing the UN. SCCCAAAAARRRYYYYYYYYYYY! The man is a first-class nut job! He denegrated the US throughout his speech and spoke evil of Israel.

Disciples of Jesus Christ! Jesus is not coming back because of the US economy. Jesus is not coming back because of the war on terror in Iraq or Afghanistan. Jesus is not coming back because of liberal/conservative culture wars. JESUS IS COMING BACK BECAUSE THE WORLD WILL TURN AGAINST ISRAEL!

This guy is not so crazy! He understands Biblical prophecy!

I just can't figure out why he wants to hurry along the coming of the Lord by aiding in fullfilling the reason for Jesus's return since He is Israel's Savior and His coming will cause Jerusalem to become the capital of the world.

Pressing-On · #3 09-23-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

Obama has found a home in the anti-Israel, pro-Islamic Jihad community of Nation of Islam Leader, Louis Farrakahn and the Black Power movement.

Obama made a comment in March 2007 that "no one is suffering more [in the Middle East] than the Palestinians." All the fine supportive comments made by Obama to Jewish voters are betrayed by this observation: Obama singled out the Palestinians as those who have suffered the most.

You can't have Zbigniew Brzezinski a part of your foreign policy braintrust (whom Obama explicitly defended when challenged) and say you're a friend of Israel. And before you take Obama at his word at this, compare his comments at a Washington D.C. rally for Darfur to his post-candidacy statements, where he reversed his position on the right to intervene and said genocide "is not the criteria" (he said this in defending his position that he'll pull troops from Iraq even if it means genocide there).

Consider: if Obama takes office there will be immense pressure to get Arab good will to help extricate the U.S. out of Iraq. Pressure on Israel would be a great PR move on the Arab street. This is what Brzezinski constantly argues. If Obama is elected and it comes to pass, you were warned.

Thank you, DB. I had information on this, but didn't think anyone would believe it. I'll have to find the conversation, if I can, when Obama tells the Palestinian person (don't recall the name off the top of my head) - "I can't push this right now because I'm in an election. Keep up the good work."

I hope people don't forget that the Muslim can lie to save face and it's okay to do so, encouraged to do so.

Pressing-On · #4 09-23-2008, 04:44 PM

Here's the info. I wanted to focus on just one paragraph from the article, which is the main point. This is a "he said" situation, so I'm not sure it's solid enough to stand on. BUT, given his associations, it wouldn't be good to totally dismiss it either.

Quote:

How Barack Obama Learned
To Love Israel

By Ali Abunimah

08 March, 2007

As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, "Hey, I'm sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be more up front." He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, "Keep up the good work!"
http://www.countercurrents.org/pa-abunimah080307.htm

Referenced here also:
http://www.jerusalemites.org/article.../march/081.htm

deacon blues · #5 09-23-2008, 06:37 PM

You should've heard the end of the president of Iran's speech. He began to say that the Imam that is to come back with Jesus Christ is soon to come. These folks believe they are destined to usher in the return of the Imam that Mohammed prophesied of.

SDG · #6 09-23-2008, 08:29 PM

The politics of fear. It has wrapped some into freneticism.

Thanx for the warning.

commonsense · #7 09-23-2008, 09:39 PM

Thank you, DB
Hopefully, the American public will wake up and smell the coffee. Appreciate the wise words.

deacon blues · #8 09-23-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The politics of fear. It has wrapped some into freneticism.

Thanx for the warning.

"And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire..."

Bro, love ya, but you are dead wrong on this one. Your blind loyalty to this campaign is baffling, but its your right to vote for Obama. You probably have stated why, but I haven't ever read why ou are voting for Obama. Really. What is the logic?