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Old 04-19-2008, 11:22 PM
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Has anyone watched Bishop John Francis on TBN. He is a trinatian pentecostal and he is out of London England. I think that he is right on.
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:56 AM
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Has anyone watched Bishop John Francis on TBN. He is a trinatian pentecostal and he is out of London England. I think that he is right on.
The bolded portions just don't quite add up! Trinitarian......right on????? Sorry friend, while there are many things trinitarians say that are good, they could never be considered "right on" in my book.
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The bolded portions just don't quite add up! Trinitarian......right on????? Sorry friend, while there are many things trinitarians say that are good, they could never be considered "right on" in my book.
Well said.
It amazes me how so many people on Apostolic forums like this think that certain Trinitarian preachers are "right on".

As far as I'm concerned, the best preachers in the world are Jesus name, Oneness preachers, period.
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Has anyone watched Bishop John Francis on TBN. He is a trinatian pentecostal and he is out of London England. I think that he is right on.
I heard him speak at The Potter's House when Bishop T.D Jakes was out of town and he was right on target with me. He opened his mouth, gave the scriptures and my Brotehr - in - law turned to me and said, "He's preaching right to you Rhonda". I have the notes in my Bible.

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Has anyone watched Bishop John Francis on TBN. He is a trinatian pentecostal and he is out of London England. I think that he is right on.
I enjoy his ministry. I have nothing against Trinnies at all. Some people on this forum act like Trinnies can not hear from God or anything. I have had some one that could be considered a Trinnie prophecy and it be dead on to me. I can not wait for the day that a Trinnies come up to people on here that are anti-Trinnies and gives them a word or something and it be dead on. Then they might see differently. Because someone might have a different doctrine does not mean they can not be right on!
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I enjoy his ministry. I have nothing against Trinnies at all. Some people on this forum act like Trinnies can not hear from God or anything. I have had some one that could be considered a Trinnie prophecy and it be dead on to me. I can not wait for the day that a Trinnies come up to people on here that are anti-Trinnies and gives them a word or something and it be dead on. Then they might see differently. Because someone might have a different doctrine does not mean they can not be right on!
I agree with you.
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Re: Bishop John Francis

Ya just gotta remember, that to the 3 steppers, these guys aren't even saved! They have rejected truth, walked away from God, denied the name of Jesus and are hell bound!!

Only problem is that most of the greatest revivals in history are trinitarian in nature and not oneness. Oh, but that couldn't have been God, could it?

It boggles my mind that some people toss everything out that someone says due to their view of the godhead. They certainly have a right to their opinion, but sheesh......who ever gets a break?
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Ya just gotta remember, that to the 3 steppers, these guys aren't even saved! They have rejected truth, walked away from God, denied the name of Jesus and are hell bound!!

Only problem is that most of the greatest revivals in history are trinitarian in nature and not oneness. Oh, but that couldn't have been God, could it?

It boggles my mind that some people toss everything out that someone says due to their view of the godhead. They certainly have a right to their opinion, but sheesh......who ever gets a break?
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Ya just gotta remember, that to the 3 steppers, these guys aren't even saved! They have rejected truth, walked away from God, denied the name of Jesus and are hell bound!!

Only problem is that most of the greatest revivals in history are trinitarian in nature and not oneness. Oh, but that couldn't have been God, could it?

It boggles my mind that some people toss everything out that someone says due to their view of the godhead. They certainly have a right to their opinion, but sheesh......who ever gets a break?
There is a lot that I would like to say...but I'm not sure how much people will be willing to read. But let me just point out that the Bible specifically instructs us that even if we should see an angel come down from heaven (a bit more impressive than what I see on TBN) and if he should preach another gospel he should be accursed. I simply want to point out the danger in basing your opinion on what somebody makes you feel. I believe that that is why the Apostle places such an emphasis on doctrine...it is not subjective

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13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.


I don't say this directed at any one person or group, and I don't say this to claim that every Apostolic preacher is pure. All I am saying is that there is a different standard than how people can move you or make you feel.

To your point about the greatest revivals there will also be a time when people will flock with itching ears to people willing to tell them what they want to hear.
I am not a divisive person but I have been around long enough to see someone move an auditorium with "anointing" while openly in some cases living a lifestyle completely opposed to the Word of God.
If the very elect are going to be deceived, it will have to be by something that looks right and feels right (once again harkening back to the admonision that if it is even coming out of the mouth of the angels...)
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Re: Bishop John Francis

While Bishop Francis does appear on TBN and associate with Trinitarians, he does baptize in Jesus name. He can be put in the same category as TD Jakes or Noel Jones.
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