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03-28-2008, 02:30 AM
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When God Hates a Man
I read a scripture on another forum today that made me think.
Proverbs 22:14 (KJV)
The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.
Proverbs 22:14 (NLT)
The mouth of an immoral woman is a dangerous trap; those who make the Lord angry will fall into it.
Proverbs 22:14 (NIV)
The mouth of an adulteress is a deep pit; he who is under the LORD's wrath will fall into it.
This scripture would indicate that it is not the moral failure of a man/woman that God hates, (I am not excusing sin here) but rather it is the result of him/her being hated by God. Reading and studying this scripture has made me examine myself and ask the Lord to reveal any wicked thing in me. I do not want to do, nor neglect to do, anything that would cause the Lord to hate me.
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03-28-2008, 06:49 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
BishopH .... are you asserting that God hates the sin and the sinner?
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03-28-2008, 08:22 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
Yeah, i agree. this is a pretty disturbing point of view to have of God.
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03-28-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
In the OT God was angry with the sinner everyday, but the heavens were filled with angels when Jesus was born saying, "Peace on Earth goodwill toward men". The war is over. God is not mad at men anymore, He isn't even in a bad mood. The work of Jesus, pacified God's wrath toward men.
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03-28-2008, 09:50 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry
In the OT God was angry with the sinner everyday, but the heavens were filled with angels when Jesus was born saying, "Peace on Earth goodwill toward men". The war is over. God is not mad at men anymore, He isn't even in a bad mood. The work of Jesus, pacified God's wrath toward men.
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Spoken like a true dispensationalist!
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03-28-2008, 09:51 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
WOW, that is kind of a strange thought. I got upset with my kids when they did something wrong and hated the consequences of their actions, but I never hated THEM. God hates sin but he does not hate His children.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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03-28-2008, 09:51 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
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Spoken like a true dispensationalist!
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Ah, but a progressive dispensationalist would prob agree w/ you Dave.
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03-28-2008, 09:52 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
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WOW, that is kind of a strange thought. I got upset with my kids when they did something wrong and hated the consequences of their actions, but I never hated THEM. God hates sin but he does not hate His children.
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That's the question. Are ALL His children?
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03-28-2008, 09:53 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
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03-28-2008, 09:53 AM
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Re: When God Hates a Man
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Originally Posted by bishoph
I read a scripture on another forum today that made me think.
Proverbs 22:14 (KJV)
The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.
Proverbs 22:14 (NLT)
The mouth of an immoral woman is a dangerous trap; those who make the Lord angry will fall into it.
Proverbs 22:14 (NIV)
The mouth of an adulteress is a deep pit; he who is under the LORD's wrath will fall into it.
This scripture would indicate that it is not the moral failure of a man/woman that God hates, (I am not excusing sin here) but rather it is the result of him/her being hated by God. Reading and studying this scripture has made me examine myself and ask the Lord to reveal any wicked thing in me. I do not want to do, nor neglect to do, anything that would cause the Lord to hate me.
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Why all these scriptures specifically about immoral women? And there is a difference between anger and hate.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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