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Old 03-19-2008, 06:32 PM
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Exclamation Largest theft in U.S. history

We have just witnessed the largest theft in U.S. history, fully sanctioned by the U.S. government now that it has been infiltrated to the highest levels by cutthroat corporate raiders.

The Bear Stearns building ALONE is worth more than JP Morgan paid for the entire company.

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The treasury secretary that approved this used to work for Goldman Sachs, a direct competitor to Bear Stearns. Now the funds that were appropriated from the Fed to bail out Bear Stearns are going to be made available to Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan for lending. Forget that it is unconstitutional, immoral, and unethical to bail out an investment bank with taxpayers' money, this was an inside job that will harm thousands of people.


But let's all watch our presidential election/soap opera instead.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:33 PM
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Re: Largest theft in U.S. history

I thought Banks and Bankers were protected against loss by the FDIC.



And I thought the FDIC stood for:
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:49 PM
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Re: Largest theft in U.S. history

Makes me almost glad I'm not rich.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:48 AM
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I thought Banks and Bankers were protected against loss by the FDIC.
The FDIC insures deposits, not bankers. Your deposit is insured by the full faith and credit of the federal government, in any amount up to $100,000.

You'll notice, however, that treasury bills are rapidly turning into junk bonds and the dollar as a currency is in a death spiral. So not only might your bank, your bank network, and the fed be having serious solvency problems, but your deposit insurer as well.

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I have always said to invest money in missions and church work...interest with many blessings never fail to come...
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:21 AM
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Jim Rogers on the Bear Stearns bailout

Bloomberg tracked down Jim Rogers somewhere in Asia and he was none too pleased with the way the U.S. government has been throwing its money around.

On why Bear Stearns was bailed out:

You know the reason they did it this way was because, if Bear Stearns had to declare bankruptcy, you'd realize that Bear Stearns paid out billions of dollars in bonuses in January - six weeks ago. If he let them go into bankruptcy, they all would have had to send back their bonuses.

This is what they're doing, they're doing it so they don't have to give back their bonuses. That's why they didn't put them into bankruptcy. Jamie Dimon has gotten a great deal because the Federal Reserve is paying for it. The Federal Reserve is using taxpayer money to buy a bunch of Bear Stearns traders' Mazeratis.

On letting banks fail:

Investment banks have been going bankrupt since the beginning of time. What are you talking about? Let somebody go bankrupt - it's not the end of the world.

You remember what happened in the 70s when they tried this tactic - when Arther Burns kept printing money. Finally, interest rates had to go to over 20 percent and they had to bring in Paul Volcker who had to take draconian measures and put the country into a serious recession. How much more money do you think the Federal Reserve has?

On risks to the banking system:

In 1966, the entire Japanese financial community went bankrupt. Every broker in Japan was in bankruptcy. Japan came out of that and became one of the great powerhouses of the world.

In 1907, everbody on Wall Street was bankrupt. Everybody was bankrupt in 1907. America recovered from that and had a very nice future. Are you telling me that we're never going to have bankruptcies in the financial community again?

On Alan Greenspan's role in this mess:

The first two central banks in America failed. Between Greenspan and Bernanke - I've written this, it's in my book, long before this happened - they're setting up the failure of the central bank. The demise of the Federal Reserve.

The first two failed, this one is going to fail too - because of Greenspan and Bernanke. Greenspan laid the perfect foundation for Bernanke.

Interestingly, four or five Bloomberg articles used quotes from this interview but none of the material above. They just used excerpts from the first part of the clip on the U.S. dollar and commodities.

http://themessthatgreenspanmade.blog...s-bailout.html
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Yep... this amounts to nothing less than taking the money and running because they know the economy is fixing to tank.

They are aligning their assets to best serve themselves as we plummet into financial disaster.

Jim Rogers has got his head screwed on straight... thats for sure.

I saw a youtube video the other day where he was being interviewed about the idiotic moves Bernanke is making.

They asked him what he would do if he had Bernanke's position.

He replied "I would abolish the Federal Reserve and then resign."

He has my vote.
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Yep... this amounts to nothing less than taking the money and running because they know the economy is fixing to tank.

They are aligning their assets to best serve themselves as we plummet into financial disaster.

Jim Rogers has got his head screwed on straight... thats for sure.

I saw a youtube video the other day where he was being interviewed about the idiotic moves Bernanke is making.

They asked him what he would do if he had Bernanke's position.

He replied "I would abolish the Federal Reserve and then resign."

He has my vote.
Right. I'm reading that McCain needs to say he will replace Bernanke. I agree!
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Right. I'm reading that McCain needs to say he will replace Bernanke. I agree!
McCain needs to say...

"Just kidding... I'm not running for president.... it was all just a cruel joke"



We need someone who will say "I am getting rid of the Federal Reserve (which is neither Federal nor a reserve)
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:25 AM
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McCain needs to say...

"Just kidding... I'm not running for president.... it was all just a cruel joke"



We need someone who will say "I am getting rid of the Federal Reserve (which is neither Federal nor a reserve)


I, somehow, knew you a were going to say this.

I agree on the Federal Reserve, it will have to be one-stepped at a time. People have to understand the beginning, middle and end of a change before they will accept it. It has to be explained in layman's terms, in other words.

What do you think about the Fair Tax? They are putting out a new book pretty soon. I still have questions about some things, like savings. Some are saying they will be double taxed on that if the Fair Tax were implemented.
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