Re: Let's Talk About Organizational Consistency, h
i dont agree. if anything Dan pointed out that DB was a major proponent of the Infernal Document and is likely a major proponent of the move to block this dual membership movement.
that cuts both libs and cons out, making the UPCI more moderate.
....more to come on the NCO.
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Re: Let's Talk About Organizational Consistency, h
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Originally Posted by Ferd
i dont agree. if anything Dan pointed out that DB was a major proponent of the Infernal Document and is likely a major proponent of the move to block this dual membership movement.
that cuts both libs and cons out, making the UPCI more moderate.
....more to come on the NCO.
Interesting thought.
I think DB has to be a part of this new move to slice and dice.
Especially since he has already written about it in great detail.
Apparently he finds the issue large enough to capture his attention, and to share his thoughts with others.
When I consider this, I'm not sure if his is just attempting moderation, or if he is overstepping. His political manueverings are divisive - at the least.
Re: Let's Talk About Organizational Consistency, h
The UPCI blocks dual membership with the ALJC and when the AWCF came along, there was a block of dual membership with that organizaiton. The same happened with the AMF (though, none of those men WANTED dual membership)
NCO has none of the organizational trappings that ALJC/AWCF/AMF/WWPF.
WWPF has couched themselves as a fellowship and not an organizaiton. but their structure is certainly more "organized" than a simple fellowship.
NCO is little more than a loose fellowship that from what I have seen, really isnt even that... nor has it produced any kind of ground swell that would think it will become one.
WWPF has a bible school, magiznine, missions plan, departments, a headquarters office space, dues, benifits, bible quizing, youth camps, and alternitive meetings to the UPCI.
these are vastly different organizational structures. One which has nor impact on the UPCI (NCO) the other that clearly has a direct impact on the UPCI (WWPF)
NCO and WWPF are apples and oranges.
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Re: Let's Talk About Organizational Consistency, h
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Originally Posted by Ferd
The UPCI blocks dual membership with the ALJC and when the AWCF came along, there was a block of dual membership with that organizaiton. The same happened with the AMF (though, none of those men WANTED dual membership)
NCO has none of the organizational trappings that ALJC/AWCF/AMF/WWPF.
WWPF has couched themselves as a fellowship and not an organizaiton. but their structure is certainly more "organized" than a simple fellowship.
NCO is little more than a loose fellowship that from what I have seen, really isnt even that... nor has it produced any kind of ground swell that would think it will become one.
WWPF has a bible school, magiznine, missions plan, departments, a headquarters office space, dues, benifits, bible quizing, youth camps, and alternitive meetings to the UPCI.
these are vastly different organizational structures. One which has nor impact on the UPCI (NCO) the other that clearly has a direct impact on the UPCI (WWPF)
NCO and WWPF are apples and oranges.
I think you would have a hard time proving that legally.
Re: Let's Talk About Organizational Consistency, h
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Originally Posted by Alter Ego
Interesting thought.
I think DB has to be a part of this new move to slice and dice.
Especially since he has already written about it in great detail.
Apparently he finds the issue large enough to capture his attention, and to share his thoughts with others.
When I consider this, I'm not sure if his is just attempting moderation, or if he is overstepping. His political manueverings are divisive - at the least.
I don't think this was done intentionally but a product of his being a vocal apologist - theologically and politically. Also in his passion to define the movement. Will history record him as such if the speculations about this are founded?
Re: Let's Talk About Organizational Consistency, h
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I don't think this was done intentionally but a product of his being a vocal apologist - theologically and politically. Also his passion to define the movement. Will history record him as such if the speculations about this are founded?
How can it not?
What will the total loss of ministers be after we calculate the ministers who left over the AS, and now this edict?
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