ON THE ISSUES-Every Political Leader/Every Issue

[TalkLady]

This makes it very simple to KNOW some things about the candidates (until they flip flop):

REPUBLICANS

JOHN McCAIN:

http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm

MIKE HUCKABEE:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm

RON PAUL:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm
I can't help it...I still have to include him. I do agree with him on some positions.

DEMOCRATS

HILLARY CLINTON

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

BARAK OBAMA

http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

[OP_Carl]

I nominate this as a candidate for yet another sticky.

[chaotic_resolve]

McCain - Rino - not voting for him. Besides the oft-noted fact that he's a hot-headed jerk who turned conservatives off back in the 2000 race when he spoke against Falwell and religious right - the guy is too old. If I'm running against McCain, I'd be getting his health records and making an issue out of his age and temper.

Huckabee - Good grief, no. Bad would be having Hillary as Prez, worse would be having the Huckster. The last thing we need is a preacher as president. I'm sure that's not going to be popular here, but think about how some act when given a little power over their congregation and then multiply that by being the leader of an entire country.

Paul - I like RP. Too bad he doesn't have a chance to compete in a Republican primary. His support comes mostly from Indie voters who aren't allowed to vote during the primary -- at least not where I live. I went to cast my vote for him the other day and was greeted by a sign that reminded me that my being a registered Indie voter disallowed me from casting a vote. Sure, Paul has his faults, but for the most part - I agree with him far more than I agree with any other candidate.

Clinton - Bill would be back in the White House ... need I say more.

Obama - Tell you what, I love listening to this guy speak. He knows how to connect with the people and his speeches are, well, JFK and MLK Jr - esque. Too bad he's such a Liberal. Though if he wins the Donkey nomination, and McCain wins the Elephant nomination ... be hard to choose between the two. I imagine I'd either boycott the vote or vote Obama.

Yeah, I dislike McCain that much.

Good thread, thanks for the links.

[OP_Carl]

I imagine I'd either boycott the vote or vote Obama.

Yeah, I dislike McCain that much.

yet another conservative contemplating a suicide vote . . .

[Pressing-On]

McCain's GOPAC Speech

(excerpted)

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/J...addresses_cpac

John McCain Addresses CPAC
By John McCain
Thursday, February 7, 2008

John McCain addressed the CPAC convention on Thursday, February 7th with the following remarks:


I began by assuring you that we share a conception of liberty that is the bedrock of our beliefs as conservatives. As you know, I was deprived of liberty for a time in my life, and while my love of liberty is no greater than yours, you can be confident that mine is the equal of any American's. It is a deep and unwavering love. My life experiences in service to our country inform my political judgments. They are at the core of my convictions.

I am pro-life and an advocate for the Rights of Man everywhere in the world because of them, because I know that to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator. I will never waver in that conviction, I promise you. I know in this country our liberty will not be seized in a political revolution or by a totalitarian government. But, rather, as Burke warned, it can be "nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts." I am alert to that risk and will defend against it, and ta ke comfort from the knowledge that I will be encouraged in that defense by my fellow conservatives. You have heard me say before that for all my reputation as a maverick, I have only found true happiness in serving a cause greater than my self-interest. For me, that cause has always been our country, and the ideals that have made us great. I have been her imperfect servant for many years, and I have made many mistakes. You can attest to that, but need not. For I know them well myself. But I love her deeply and I will never, never tire of the honor of serving her. I cannot do that without your counsel and support. And I am grateful, very grateful, that you have given me this opportunity to ask for it. Thank you and God bless you.

[Aquila]

They are going to remake McCain into their phony "conservative" model to get those who have bought into their phony "conservative vision" to advance their globalist agenda that will bleed America's weath into China, Mexico, and the third world. The Republicans can't be trusted.

In roughly a month you'll hear conservatives talking about how conservative McCain is and everyone will fall back into the group think they've designed to capture your votes. When you get confronted with facts regarding their poor performance and how they are damaging America, you're mind will instantly jump to wedge issues that have been psychologically constructed to socially condition you to embrace them anyway.

These guys are pretenders. They Republican Party isn't conservative, conservatism as most understand it is an illusive ideal that has never existed and never will. Its a way of trapping you into believing in the "good ol' days" where everything looked like a Normal Rockwell painting and everyone talked like the did in Leave It To Beaver. Deception. That's what it is deception.

The Republicans aren't going to do a thing about abortion and moral issues. The Republicans are only going to continue to make American businesses dependent upon their corporate welfare scheme to undermine the American economy and solidify their globalist economic agenda.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3031717.stm

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

yet another conservative contemplating a suicide vote . . .

Yep. I reason it this way ...

I don't like McCain. Haven't voted for him since he turned me off in 2000 ... probably will never vote for him again. It's not so much the "Straight Talk Express" as it is the "Forked Tongue Express" that McCain is on.

I'd vote for Obama, but not Hillary - so my suicide vote has its limits. With Congress being somewhat even and with Republicans working better as the minority than the majority - Obama couldn't do much to mess things up. Certainly no more than what they are already.

If there is any kind of pause or second-thinking it's only because of the Supreme Court and the fact the next Prez will likely be choosing 3 replacements. As terrible as it is, I'd rather have McCain choose them than Obama.

We'll see what happens. Romney only suspended his campaign, which I've read is different than completely dropping out. He may be rope-a-doping the Huckster, hoping good ole Huck will call it quits too. Then Romney could come back, get the conservative votes/delegates Huckster's taken from him and give McCain a more competitive race.

JMO

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Yep. I reason it this way ...

I don't like McCain. Haven't voted for him since he turned me off in 2000 ... probably will never vote for him again. It's not so much the "Straight Talk Express" as it is the "Forked Tongue Express" that McCain is on.

I'd vote for Obama, but not Hillary - so my suicide vote has its limits. With Congress being somewhat even and with Republicans working better as the minority than the majority - Obama couldn't do much to mess things up. Certainly no more than what they are already.

If there is any kind of pause or second-thinking it's only because of the Supreme Court and the fact the next Prez will likely be choosing 3 replacements. As terrible as it is, I'd rather have McCain choose them than Obama.

We'll see what happens. Romney only suspended his campaign, which I've read is different than completely dropping out. He may be rope-a-doping the Huckster, hoping good ole Huck will call it quits too. Then Romney could come back, get the conservative votes/delegates Huckster's taken from him and give McCain a more competitive race.

JMO

You gotta be kidding me!!! Not voting Conservative. That is almost as bad as the magic hair thing. All joking aside, I would think that you would vote for him. He will do a great job. I could vote for Obama, though I think that he has a hidden agenda. I am not sure what it is, but kinda get the feeling. I would not want Clinton in the White House, but IF Bill was responsible for the good economy from his terms then she might not be bad to that point, but I can not vote for her.

Huckabee, I would vote him all the way. I was going to vote Romney, I like him, but if he does not get back in then I am not sure what I will do actually.

At least it won't be John Kerry!

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

You gotta be kidding me!!! Not voting Conservative. That is almost as bad as the magic hair thing. All joking aside, I would think that you would vote for him. He will do a great job. I could vote for Obama, though I think that he has a hidden agenda. I am not sure what it is, but kinda get the feeling. I would not want Clinton in the White House, but IF Bill was responsible for the good economy from his terms then she might not be bad to that point, but I can not vote for her.

Huckabee, I would vote him all the way. I was going to vote Romney, I like him, but if he does not get back in then I am not sure what I will do actually.

At least it won't be John Kerry!

Now, just because I'd vote for BO doesn't mean I agree at all with his politics. I don't. He's for universal healthcare, pro-choice, pro-illegal immigration by pushing for the acceptance of drivers licenses for illegals and a bunch of other things that I don't agree with.

I may love his speaking ability, but his poetic speeches aren't enough. I'd only vote for him instead of McCain or the Huckster. Shoot, I'd vote for Hillary over the Huckster.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Now, just because I'd vote for BO doesn't mean I agree at all with his politics. I don't. He's for universal healthcare, pro-choice, pro-illegal immigration by pushing for the acceptance of drivers licenses for illegals and a bunch of other things that I don't agree with.

I may love his speaking ability, but his poetic speeches aren't enough. I'd only vote for him instead of McCain or the Huckster. Shoot, I'd vote for Hillary over the Huckster.

Then by all means, please do the rest of the country a favor and just don't vote. That would be much better than you voting in the opposite direction for no other reason than you obviously have a personal problem with preachers.