We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up! - Page 99

Aquila · #**981** 12-22-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No, just spent a week with him.

Do you agree with his theology?

Evang.Benincasa · #**982** 12-22-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Hmmm... interesting... I saw Brother Solomon over at Heritage in Brewer this year, he spoke on Friday night. It seems one supports one or the other, if they have anything to do with Ethiopia.

-Bro. Alex

Brother Alex, Brother Teklemariam considers it is salvational to believe that Jesus was God Flesh. I believe that Jesus shared Mary's DNA, therefore He was able to be part of the lineage of David, Abraham, and Adam.
Brother Teklemariam, believes that Jesus couldn't be part of Adam because Adam was created from dirt. Not to side track the thread, I will leave this subject for another time.

Lord bless you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Aquila · #**983** 12-22-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Please go over the above paragraph again. You contradicting yourself.
Stop trying to defend the undefendable.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

I see nothing wrong with steeples or Christmas trees. LOL

Most folks I know who beat the drum against Christmas have steeples on their churches. That's the contradiction I've seen.

Evang.Benincasa · #**984** 12-23-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

The church was given authority to bind and loose on earth. We have absolute dominion. If the Church decides to overwrite a pagan custom to "Christianize" a culture, she has that authority.

Well I guess if you defend a Roman Catholic holiday you will use Roman Catholic scripture interpretations to do it. You are misinterpreting the scripture to protect your Catholic holiday. Jesus tells them about the binding and loosing, after He goes through the discourse on making a judgement about a individual who is in the fellowship and has sinned, and will not hear the congregation. What Jesus is telling them that they will have the ministerial power to make a judgement call, on an offending Brother.
The scripture is not talking about having power to make it up as you go along.
To create new festivals and you please.

Matt 18:15-20

"Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, WHATSOEVER YE BIND ON EARTH SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN: AND WHATSOEVER YE LOOSE ON EARTH SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM OF MY FATHER which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

The Catholics try to say the loosing and binding is given to the Pope so that he can create new traditions for the church. Like I said, to protect Catholic dogma you need to use Catholic arguments.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Aquila · #**985** 12-23-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Well I guess if you defend a Roman Catholic holiday you will use Roman Catholic scripture interpretations to do it. You are misinterpreting the scripture to protect your Catholic holiday. Jesus tells them about the binding and loosing, after He goes through the discourse on making a judgement about a individual who is in the fellowship and has sinned, and will not hear the congregation. What Jesus is telling them that they will have the ministerial power to make a judgement call, on an offending Brother.
The scripture is not talking about having power to make it up as you go along.
To create new festivals and you please.

Matt 18:15-20

"Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, WHATSOEVER YE BIND ON EARTH SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN: AND WHATSOEVER YE LOOSE ON EARTH SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM OF MY FATHER which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

The Catholics try to say the loosing and binding is given to the Pope so that he can create new traditions for the church. Like I said, to protect Catholic dogma you need to use Catholic arguments.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

So if church authority wishes not to condemn a man for celebrating Christmas have they not that authority?

StMark · #**986** 12-23-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Mark, where in the Bible did they created new Holy days to replace the Jewish festivals? Mark, there is no prohibition against counting beads when you pray. Yet the Bible says LEARN NOT THE WAY OF THE HEATHEN.
Jesus made it real simple for you, and the Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Churches are holding their stomachs while they roll on the floor with tears in their eyes laughing while you contend for their made up celebrations. Hey, do you keep Saint Anthony's Feast? Yummy bread!

Well, you made it sound like it was the best thing since back pockets.

No.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Paul also said let no man judge you in meat, certian holy days or sabbaths.
also,Romans 4says where there is no law there is no transgression.
There is no law against setting a day aside to celebrate the birth of christ. there is absolutely no harm in it.

I am well aware of catholism. My Dad's people are stuanch RC.my cousin is a RC priest in chicago. My grandmother wore the long lace veil. my father and uncle were alter boys and groomed to be priest. they were disowned with a full mock funeral by the church when they came to Pentecost. My father & uncle were saved under the late Carl Ballestero in Los Angeles in 1947. I resent being campared to the catholics when in fact our family fought against that for many years. Exchanging gifts and acknowledging the incarnation and birth of the savior on earth is not roman catholism.

StMark · #**987** 12-23-2008, 12:29 AM

Aquila, are we on talking terms or not?

Aquila · #**988** 12-23-2008, 12:31 AM

I see it as a matter of tradition. It's not a Heaven or Hell issue.

Aquila · #**989** 12-23-2008, 12:34 AM

StMark had an excellent point. While Scripture doesn't demand that we set a day aside to commemorate Christ's birth... it doesn't condemn the idea either. It's a matter of Christian liberty.

Jermyn Davidson · #**990** 12-23-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

StMark had an excellent point. While Scripture doesn't demand that we set a day aside to commemorate Christ's birth... it doesn't condemn the idea either. It's a matter of Christian liberty.

As long as we esteem as a day unto the Lord, that was St. Paul's requirement and we must be careful to not offend our weaker brothers and sisters.