Wow! Hope you'd change your mind and take care of God's image.
Actually, if he were in an accident that required medical attention, he wouldn't have a choice but to have emergency care. After they got him stitched up he'd be free to go, but they wouldn't allow him to die at the accident scene because he was refusing treatment.
And if his injuries were that bad, I doubt he'd be offering up much protest either.
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Actually, if he were in an accident that required medical attention, he wouldn't have a choice but to have emergency care. After they got him stitched up he'd be free to go, but they wouldn't allow him to die at the accident scene because he was refusing treatment.
And if his injuries were that bad, I doubt he'd be offering up much protest either.
Actually you can always refuse treatment if you are conscious to do so, and it must be respected.
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Why does one have to stop life saving treatment before God can heal them anyways? You ever try, you and your spouse, to just quit your jobs and expect God to supply your every need for the rest of your lives? And clearly some DO die or not get healed who have shunned treatment....yet had they got treatment they or their child would be alive.
Why do you keep adding the "without medication"? You don't know the faith of anyone on this board. They were using "cures" way back in the bible days too and when they trusted in Jesus he did not say "no, you went to the Dr first so I won't heal you"
Also great faith? The bible says all you need is the faith the size of a mustard seed and that we ALL have a measure of faith. So this carnal test of yours to divide between those that have GREAT FAITH (yourself) and others is flawed and sounds like it comes more from the carnal man than anything else. Paul told Timothy to use a little wine for his stomach problems....why not just tell him to trust God and be healed and not try something "carnal"?
That question has been asked and ignored several times now. He won't answer it.
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Why can't someone go to the Dr AND Trust in God? People can pray and wait on God and nothing happen and we have seen that often nothing ever does happen and some die without getting medical attention. So what is so wrong with going to get treatment?
See that is the part that is troubling is the accusation that others don't have faith or trust in God.
I often wonder why these same people don't all just quit their jobs and trust in God to provide rent, house payments, food, clothing, gas for their cars if they have them etc etc etc....they don't because they don't have great faith? They don't trust in God? Or they don't because that would be foolish. They can work AND trust in God at the same time.
Shame on Billy Cole for going to the hospital and not trusting God!!
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God's image? RD, I have a lot of respect for those who have had the courage to refuse treatment for illness and rely solely on God for healing. I see it as a great testimony to what it means to be completely dedicated to the Lord in every way imaginable, regardless of the cost. I don't have the courage and type of faith I've seen in those saints, so I don't know what I would do if I found out I had cancer or some other situation that meant certain death. It's easy to boast of accomplishments not yet achieved, if you catch my drift. It's another thing entirely to walk this "no doctors" road all the way to end. People say God gets no glory when someone dies "trusting God." I couldn't disagree with them more if I tried. People are so worried about how things look to man. Who cares how things look to man? How about how they look to God? His ways are so much higher than our ways. It goes against man's reasoning, his common sense if you will, to willingly die in the hands of a God who could easily say the word and do a miracle. It isn't about the miracles or the healings, however. It's about trust.
Honest question here.
Do you think it's more honorable for someone to be healed by God without medications than to be healed by God with medications?
Another question.
Does God get more glory by healing someone who didn't seek medical treatment than when He heals someone who also went to the Dr.?
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Sister, I am getting burned out on this conversation for one day. Think what you want to think. I'm starting not to care, at least for the rest of today anyway. Read whatever you want to read in my posts, decide I don't get your point to your heart's content, whatever. I got three more hours on this stupid phone and then I think I am going to get myself a nice bottle of whiskey, and call it a night! Hehehehehehehe! You people could drive Jesus to drink!
Uh, YOU are the one reading someone else than what's in the posts, not me.
YOU are the one who says what YOU think I believe when I have PLAINLY said otherwise.
Enjoy your whiskey!
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There is so much positive mentioned in scripture about the use of medicines and treatment that one has to willfully explain away. You make this an either-or dilemma where Scripture doesn't.
God has also given man dominion over the land and that includes the intellectual ability to heal and prevent diseases at least to some degree.
This is not an issue of demonizing the use of medicine or going to doctors. I really wish you would get off that, RD. This is an issue of trust and how far one is willing to take that trust.
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