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Old 07-17-2007, 06:19 PM
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Ok, I was just trying to make an analogy using routers because no matter HOW these discussions turn out they always end up with "Well, if you don't do it (or do it) then your in rebellion.".
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:19 PM
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Shamgar is identified as a Biblical Judge, who repelled Philistine incursions into Israelite regions, and slaughtered 600 of the invaders with an ox goad (a formidable weapon sometimes ten feet long).

I am quite masculine.
Well, that's what I thought...I mean that you were a fella...
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:21 PM
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Shamgar is identified as a Biblical Judge, who repelled Philistine incursions into Israelite regions, and slaughtered 600 of the invaders with an ox goad (a formidable weapon sometimes ten feet long).

I am quite masculine.
Sounds like one of the '300'.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:22 PM
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Ok, I was just trying to make an analogy using routers because no matter HOW these discussions turn out they always end up with "Well, if you don't do it (or do it) then your in rebellion.".
I liked it! Don't worry, no one liked my bandpass filter analogy either a while back. lol.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:22 PM
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I'd like to know why it isn't considered immodest to buy Lincolns and Cadillacs loaded with as many upgrades as possible?
I'd like to know why it is? Or why you might speculate that it is. For example perhaps a Mercedes totally tricked out is immodest to some, but not a caddy...or a Lamborghini is but not a low end benz....is it about how much they cost? Is it about how much money they actually had to spend?

I mean I can't afford any of those cars, but I used to think this way too and I began to wonder if it was just my being jealous (not saying you are like this)...I mean what car ARE "they" supposed to buy?

How about a Chrysler 300M? How about a Chrysler Sebring? Is four doors ok or is a rag top considered immodest?
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:24 PM
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I've got it covered!

Ah...for both women AND men? After all men have more things...well let's not go there. See what you did Sheltie?
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:26 PM
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Biblical Modesty:

The English word modesty appears only once in the King James Version of the Bible (1 Timothy 2:9). The word modesty is from the Greek term kosmios. It means: orderly, well-arranged, decent, modest, harmonious arrangement, adornment. This Greek word also appears in the Septuagint (Ecclesiastes 12:9) and is translated "set in order" and is applied to Solomon's proverbs. Kosmios is derived from kosmos which means: order, regular disposition, ornament, decoration, embellishment, adorning and is used, among other ways, of the world on which we live (Matthew 13:35; Mark 16:15). Kosmos is used of modest attire and translated as "adorning" in 1 Peter 3:3.


"Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel."

Modesty can apply to one's manner of dress. The context of 1 Timothy 2:9-10 especially concerns gaudy dress. Also, the word for "apparel," in the same verses, is from the Greek katastole which means: letting down, and is used in the Septuagint in Isaiah 61:3 as "garment" for the Hebrew meaning "covering" or "wrapping."

Modesty is also biblically applied to one's demeanor or behavior. Kosmois appears in the qualifications of elders as "good behavior" (1 Timothy 3:2). The apostle Peter also taught modesty and addressed both what one may wear and an internal modesty (1 Peter 3:1-5); The Greek word for "adorning" in this context is kosmos.

The summary definition of modesty involves both one's manner of dress and inward qualities. The well ordering is not of dress and behavior only, but also of one's inner life which exhibits itself outwardly. Biblical modesty starts on the inside and works its way to the outside of a person.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:27 PM
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I'd like to know why it is? Or why you might speculate that it is. For example perhaps a Mercedes totally tricked out is immodest to some, but not a caddy...or a Lamborghini is but not a low end benz....is it about how much they cost? Is it about how much money they actually had to spend?

I mean I can't afford any of those cars, but I used to think this way too and I began to wonder if it was just my being jealous (not saying you are like this)...I mean what car ARE "they" supposed to buy?

How about a Chrysler 300M? How about a Chrysler Sebring? Is four doors ok or is a rag top considered immodest?
I like plain Brother, but I have owned used Caddys and Lincolns before. My favorite year Caddy is the 72 Coupe DeVille and I like the late 70s and early 80s Lincolns. My point is that modesty can extend to more than just clothes.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:34 PM
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I like plain Brother, but I have owned used Caddys and Lincolns before. My favorite year Caddy is the 72 Coupe DeVille and I like the late 70s and early 80s Lincolns. My point is that modesty can extend to more than just clothes.
I have this friend that years ago I think he had an uncle that sold used caddies...Well it was the funnies thing he thought he was so cool in his long long LONG all white caddy. It was the longest car around. It was virtually a tank. And his favorite part of it was the horn. I think he got it for under 1k, but for the time being he absolutely loved that car!
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:42 PM
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I have this friend that years ago I think he had an uncle that sold used caddies...Well it was the funnies thing he thought he was so cool in his long long LONG all white caddy. It was the longest car around. It was virtually a tank. And his favorite part of it was the horn. I think he got it for under 1k, but for the time being he absolutely loved that car!
I like big cars too. I can't stand being in some small wannabe tin can of a car. I had a Nissan a while back and won't be buying another one. Right now I have two full sized vans and a car that was considered midsized when it was made. One of the vans' transmission went out on me this week, so I am not too happy about that. I had been planning on using it to run back and forth to my new job. If I could find an old boat of a car I'd jump on it.
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