Divorce and Remarriage - Page 9

Aquila · #81 07-31-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You know something, I have gone round and round with you and your idiocy.
But today has to be a momentous one. 1ofthechosen however he responded, was due to you pouring gas all over your head. Then with big smile handing out matches to one and all. Chris, you always seek the most insane anti-Christian things to place yourself smack dab in the middle. Sorry, Cheeto, but today you have shot yourself in the foot with a shotgun.

So, if I poured gasoline on my head and handed out matches... and 1ofthechosen chose to set me on fire... do you think the courts would let him off Scott free because he's one of your "good ol' boys"???

Get real. He's responsible for what he does with the match. And, so are you.

I've already gotten two or three rather sympathetic and compassionate private messages. And not all posters reacted that way... even with matches in their hands.

How one chooses to use the match...proves their character.

I'm talking about events that are now over 10 years old. You are addressing these things like they were yesterday with full blown rancor. That's just another way you constantly mischaracterize. Lighten up elder.

Evang.Benincasa · #82 07-31-2018, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

And there you go again, leaving the topic, getting personal, blah, blah, blah.

The point is... the system is a joke. And the system itself has largely stopped looking to establish "fault" because these things are often so messy. And how in the world are churches supposed to properly establish who is the "innocent" party in such messy situations???

A clean and definitive solution is to see all divorce and remarriage as sin. Provide sanctifying grace and forgiveness to those contrite couples. And, the price to pay is disqualification from leadership. It's clean. It's crystal clear.

Chris, what you are proposing just doesn't remove someone from leadership. It removes them from church, because as you put it it is sin.

TakingDominion · #83 07-31-2018, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83

Seriously guys...everyone back into their corners of civility. Getting a wee bit weary of the same song and dance and targeting. I'd explode some heads if you knew some of MY experiences. I can strongly relate with Aquila here...you guys need to chill.

Let em go let em go!

Aquila · #84 07-31-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Chris, what you are proposing just doesn't remove someone from leadership. It removes them from church, because as you put it it is sin.

It only removes them from churches that have no understanding of sanctifying grace and mercy.

To divorce again, would only double the sin of divorce. Only mercy and grace can stop the poison in its tracks and provide a new start, allowing the latter house to be greater than the former house.

Evang.Benincasa · #85 07-31-2018, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

So, if I poured gasoline on my head and handed out matches... and 1ofthechosen chose to set me on fire... do you think the courts would let him off Scott free because he's one of your "good ol' boys"???

Get real. He's responsible for what he does with the match. And, so are you.

I've already gotten two or three rather sympathetic and compassionate private messages. And not all posters reacted that way... even with matches in their hands.

How one chooses to use the match...proves their character.

I'm talking about events that are now over 10 years old. Lighten up elder.

What lighten up? What 10 years ago? Dude, you posted to this forum over and over that you have a wife due to some sort of Quaker wedding? But you now say that remarriage is sin? This isn't higher math.

berkeley · #86 07-31-2018, 09:55 AM

I motion to go on record and state that I did not send a pm to Aquila. I think it is evident by my posts that I do not like him. That being said, chosen was out of line as his post implies that Aquila knew his ex wife was a swinger before they got married. The tests is quite dramatic and paints quite a picture, typical for REDACTED |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Evang.Benincasa · #87 07-31-2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

It only removes them from churches that have no understanding of sanctifying grace and mercy.

To divorce again, would only double the sin of divorce. Only mercy and grace can stop the poison in it's tracks and provide a new start.

Chris, you posted it was a sin which would indicate that all would be under the sin. Grace and mercy, would then be over all. Chris, your fabricating.

Aquila · #88 07-31-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What lighten up? What 10 years ago? Dude, you posted to this forum over and over that you have a wife due to some sort of Quaker wedding? But you now say that remarriage is sin? This isn't higher math.

If you'd not waste your time getting personal, maybe you'd understand what I'm saying.

I do not see a divorcee who is remarried being qualified for leadership. Period. I don't care if it is a civil government socialist communist red-diaper-doper-baby state sanctioned sodomite friendly marriage... or a Quaker marriage.

Divorced and remarried should disqualify one from leadership.

Please note, my position even disqualifies me from leadership.

Aquila · #89 07-31-2018, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by berkeley

I motion to go on record and state that I did not send a pm to Aquila. I think it is evident by my posts that I do not like him. That being said, chosen was out of line as his post implies that Aquila knew his ex wife was a swinger before they got married. The tests is quite dramatic and paints quite a picture, typical for REDACTED |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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My ex-wife and I were high school sweethearts. We married immediately after graduation and I joined the military. We had never known any other. We played by the rules.

We were in church, serving faithfully, for 13 years together before things began to go South.

She was in no way immoral when we were married.

Anyway... all that drama is now over 10 years old. Yet some of the stuffed shirts around her want to act like they're about to faint, fanning themselves, for the "vapors". They are only acting like that to color someone badly.

Life isn't always a rose garden. Some of us take some pretty heavy hits. And... as can be seen time and time again, the church largely shoots their wounded.

I simply refused to die.

Evang.Benincasa · #90 07-31-2018, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

If you'd not waste your time getting personal, maybe you'd understand what I'm saying.

I do not see a divorcee who is remarried being qualified for leadership. Period. I don't care if it is a civil government socialist communist red-diaper-doper-baby state sanctioned sodomite friendly marriage... or a Quaker marriage.

Divorced and remarried should disqualify one from leadership.

Please note, my position even disqualifies me from leadership.

Funny, but isn't the HUSBAND the pastor of his own home? King of the castle?
Chris, your disdain for leadership just shot you in the foot. You really didn't think this one through. Personal opinion or not. You are living in sin by your own admittance.