Former Memphis area pastor preaching a conference

[tv1a]

Who assigned the religious Gestapo to track TB's every move?

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by staysharp

Dan Willis is currently hosting a weekly tv show on the Church Channel and pastor's in Chicago area. He is known for being very liberal, etc. His parents were old school upc pioneers. he is a brother to Andy Willis in Houston Tx. I find it interesting that the talking points are about restoration, healing etc. IMO, its a little early for TB to be teaching the body of Christ on these subjects.

I viewsed an interview with Dan and I was NOT impressed; he's nondenominational, andseemed a little strange spirited?????

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by not4saken

Forgiveness is INSTANT. Restoration is a PROCESS.

Amen!!! Amen!!! Amen!!!

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by not4saken

So right.
I had an uncle by marriage that pastored for many years in New Albany. He was involved in a long term affair with his church secretary, and his wife was AWARE- but never told. When he was discovered,(by a church member that called Bro. M) and the DS at the time took care of business- the pastor left the church, went across the river and started a new church- along with his 'affair'. (wife passed away shortly after- cancer) He married the 'affair'.

RESTORED?

Nope!!! Rebellious and Stubborn as the spirit of witchcraft!!!! Yes God forgives, but part of restoaration involves restitution, and a period of correctioning. Swaggart refused to yield to the authority that he was under, and he sinned in that same manner again; there was NO true REPENTANCE....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by not4saken

Sis...apology accepted.
Now, let me say sumthin to you, and please don't get offended. When I joined AFF the first time, several years ago- I was a hurt, disappointed, angry and disallussioned saint. Raised in a one-ness Apostolic preacher's home and 5th generation Oneness Pentecostal, I thot I KNEW what living for God the 'right' way should be like. I also thot I knew how saints in the pews should be treated by the ministry. I also thot that I could come on here and rant and spew all kinds of bitterness and bile (no names mentioned in my posts) against the unfair way I and my family had been treated, and folks would coddle me and pat on me, and agree about how unfairly I had been treated. WRONG. Coonskinner, Old paths, Bro. Epley, CC1, Renda, and lots of others on AFF back then, blasted me right back when I wasn't thinking right. I will forever be grateful for these people being in my life at the time. They helped me see things from different perspectives and they helped me heal. I was forever changed by my time here back then. Because of this experience, I can easily spot when posts are written out of anger, or bitterness, or when not a lot of thot was given before posts were typed. Maybe I'm just super sensitive to this type of poster, because I was one at one time.

I can appreciate when folks are hurt, and dealt wrongly with, and they're disallussioned with people. I have been there. I think of you a lot during the day, and pray for your family and all of TB's past saints. I can only hope and pray that there will not be any souls lost because of TB and his selfish lusts.

Maybe we can start again. I hope we understand each other a little better

Love and prayers, Lynne

I am humbled beyond words.

[not4saken]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I am humbled beyond words.

PAstor, I hold you in highest regard, and utmost respect- even though I don't agree with all that you believe is necessary for salvation; you treated me kind and never wavered on your beliefism.

Thank you.

[StillStanding]

Do you think we could set up an interview with Oprah where he could come clean?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Who assigned the religious Gestapo to track TB's every move?

He's on the case!

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Again, I'm just wondering what happened to Elder Black's strong stand for holiness?

What happened to his strong stand for Apostolic Identity?

What happened to his push to cut off fellowship with non-conformists?

This, to me, is almost as bad as the moral failure, and I've seen this occur with many men over the years. They preach standards very stridently, but when exposed for their fraudulent lifestyle they find comfort and sanctuary with the very people they previously demonized.

Same thing happened with Brother Fuller.

When you are an "in demand" preacher, if there is a hint that you are weak on the sacred cows of hair, make up, jewelry, pants on females, facial hair on men, shorts, movie theaters, you stand to lose thousands of dollars of annual income from preaching on the side. Really most of the corruption we see anywhere whether religion, politics, business, families, etc is rooted in the love of money. When you love money the door is open for all sorts of evil, hypocrisy, double standards, sin, immorality, etc.

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I think most would agree TB has been a part of the conservative bastion in the UPC.

Only on the sacred cows. Until the WPF bunch left, there were three strands of UPCers: ultra conservative (hair, make up, jewelry, pants, shorts, facial hair, long sleeves, no wedding rings, no tv, no movies, no Hollywood entertainment, no organized sports, no amusement parks, no rodeos, no circuses, no bowling, no fun except what could be found at Branson and Opryland Hotel in Nashville), the conservatives, which TB was a part of (hair, make up, jewelry, pants, shorts, movie theaters, facial hair---but allowances for TV, movies in the home, amusement parks, bowling, rodeos, circuses, and professional sporting events, organized sports for their grandchildren but no else's and the occasional "missionary trip" to Thailand to eat like a king, buy tailor made suits and have little oriental girls walk on your bare back because of all of the hard labor back in the States) and the liberals (grace )