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Old 02-17-2007, 09:47 AM
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Perhaps you're not looking close enough ... CS ... or refuse to examine how some in the Apostolic movement are teaching salvation ... or perhaps you would rather continue to focus on WH.
You know, I never think about WH except when I read about him on here.

I know how I and the men I fellowship teach salvation.

And you don't have to hire a private investigator with the gift of discernment to figure out what we believe it takes to be saved.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:49 AM
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You're absolutely right, CS some are very clear in their condemnation filled preaching of salvation. ... Some are teaching the Holy Ghost as an admission ticket and not a gift or promise ....
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:55 AM
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You're absolutely right, CS some are very clear in their condemnation filled preaching of salvation. ... Some are teaching the Holy Ghost as an admission ticket and not a gift or promise ....
Nice barb hidden in the broad brush there.

So you imply that any man who doesn't sneak up on folks with the message is preaching a condemnation filled message?

LOL!

As to preaching the HG as an admission ticket, hogwash. I have NEVER done that, and have always stressed that the New Birth is the starter's gun, not the finish line.

But you are not even in the Kingdom until you are born of water and Spirit, and people deserve to know that.

Jesus certainly didn't beat around the bush with Nicodemus.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:57 AM
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I echo your beliefs of John 3.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:57 AM
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Nice barb hidden in the broad brush there.

So you imply that any man who doesn't sneak up on folks with the message is preaching a condemnation filled message?

LOL!

As to preaching the HG as an admission ticket, hogwash. I have NEVER done that, and have always stressed that the New Birth is the starter's gun, not the finish line.

But you are not even in the Kingdom until you are born of water and Spirit, and people deserve to know that.

Jesus certainly didn't beat around the bush with Nicodemus.
Bro. You gotta remember these guys think they are the only ones who khow to "Correctly" preach salvation. The evil UPC crams it down peoples throats.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:58 AM
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The inverse may be true?
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:00 AM
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Bro. You gotta remember these guys think they are the only ones who khow to "Correctly" preach salvation. The evil UPC crams it down peoples throats.
I'm growing in my enlightenment.

I guess I am just not "Champion Material."
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CS you are more than a Champion ...
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The inverse may be true?
Perhaps there are some on both sides of this that feel as has been expressed?
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:01 AM
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Bro. You gotta remember these guys think they are the only ones who khow to "Correctly" preach salvation. The evil UPC crams it down peoples throats.
There is a place between the "evil UPC" method you describe and just reciting the sinner prayer!
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