How easy is it to Lose Salvation? - Page 9

Socialite · #81 02-03-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

You may be better off!

Of course you should have been here when we solved everyone's problems.... gave them a bushel of truth and opinion! And boy our opinion is the best, isn't it Socialite?

Been Thinkin

Been Thinkin

Oh yeah.

Truthseeker · #82 02-04-2011, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Someone comes to visit you and you say you're so glad to see them, when you just got through saying, "Oh no! I didn't want any company!"

Been Thinkin

If your not glad to seem them then yes it's lying.

LUKE2447 · #83 02-04-2011, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Straw men. No one so far as propagated Eternal Security.

I've heralded Just-About-Eternal Security

yep...

LUKE2447 · #84 02-04-2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

If it were a continuum --- and ES is a 1, on the left, and SITHAG is a 10 on the right. I'd say... a 2!

1.1

LUKE2447 · #85 02-04-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I'd rather be a native in the deep dark jungles that has never heard of Jesus than a child of God that is separated from Him by sin.

Tis true!

LUKE2447 · #86 02-04-2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Do you have sin? Do you sin? Today? Last night?

When God looks at us, does he see our sin, or Christ's blood?

If you are sinning he sees the sin. Walking in faith is righteousness by the Spirit. In him there is no sin.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

1Jn 2:3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 Whoever says "I know him" but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,
1Jn 2:5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Joh 15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
Joh 15:11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.
Joh 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
Joh 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.

LUKE2447 · #87 02-04-2011, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

He sees His children through the blood of his Son, Jesus Christ. But we cannot live in sin and walk with a Holy God. Sin is an anathema to him.

Correct. This mentality of a blood covering. blood bubble we live in and when we sin God does not see it or he sees it but it doesn't change our standing before him is about as heretical as it gets. God will still draw you and convict you but that doesn't mean you are "just" before him. It is his mercy that he does so.

Socialite · #88 02-04-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

If you are sinning he sees the sin. Walking in faith is righteousness by the Spirit. In him there is no sin.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.

1Jn 2:3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 Whoever says "I know him" but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,
1Jn 2:5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

Joh 15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
Joh 15:11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.
Joh 15:12 "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
Joh 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.

Eventually, you will have to reconcile your pet scripture with the whole counsel of scripture. Scripture is explicit that we are "in Christ" so His record is seen, not ours.... and this is more than once.

I've dealt with your citation from John before. But eventually you'll have to get unstuck and reconcile that with the whole of scripture.

LUKE2447 · #89 02-04-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Eventually, you will have to reconcile your pet scripture with the whole counsel of scripture. Scripture is explicit that we are "in Christ" so His record is seen, not ours.... and this is more than once.

I've dealt with your citation from John before. But eventually you'll have to get unstuck and reconcile that with the whole of scripture.

your "dealing" ignored everything scripture says and you missed the whole context.