Libertarian economics.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by coadie

So you admit the IQ is an ego claim? It is not actually measured?

The libertiarians are on a head trip of superiority just like the other brand of liberals.

Ron Paul is a babbling idiot in regards to economics. The ignorant people that are impressed with him only see that Ron Paul criticizes negative economic statistics that they are need criticisim. But he is retarded in economics. The junk he tracks is 100 years old. Never tested and never adopted.

Ron Pauls hero is Ayn Rand. Ayn is just another atheist philosphy major.She wrote for Hollywood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTDa...ayer_embedded#

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Ayn is worthless for 3 reasons. She is a writer of fiction. Her math methodologies are non existent. She has no science. Just personal conviction.

If you have not overdosed on koolaid, you can watch her rants and see she contradicts herself. If you are on koolaid, you won't notice it.



Her hero was Frederich Neitzche. Another heathen zealot.

Despite her philosophical differences with them, Rand strongly endorsed the writings of both men throughout her career, and both of them expressed admiration for her. Once von Mises referred to Rand as "the most courageous man in America", a compliment that particularly pleased her because he said 'man' instead of 'woman'.[41] Later, following the publication of Atlas Shrugged, von Mises wrote to her, praising the novel and inviting Rand to attend his seminar as an honored guest, which she did.[42] Rand also developed a friendship with libertarian writer Isabel Paterson. Rand questioned the well-informed Paterson about American history and politics long into the night during their numerous meetings and gave Paterson ideas for her only nonfiction book, The God of the Machine.[43]


Ayn Rand is to economics what Michael Moore is to medicine. all they have is opinions.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by houston

I want to read Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead. I was given a copy of Anthem. I read it... passed it on with the condition that the person that reads it passes it on to someone else...

Atlas Shrugged was definitely her magnum opus. I wrestled through it because the Objectivism was so explicit, as was her rejection of the "mystical" and blatant denial of "Original Sin," all of which she attributes to socialism ironically (somehow). Her life in the end was indeed a contradiction (her relationship with a friend's spouse), but her mark on the ideas of limited government has not had a better voice.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

Despite her philosophical differences with them, Rand strongly endorsed the writings of both men throughout her career, and both of them expressed admiration for her. Once von Mises referred to Rand as "the most courageous man in America", a compliment that particularly pleased her because he said 'man' instead of 'woman'.[41] Later, following the publication of Atlas Shrugged, von Mises wrote to her, praising the novel and inviting Rand to attend his seminar as an honored guest, which she did.[42] Rand also developed a friendship with libertarian writer Isabel Paterson. Rand questioned the well-informed Paterson about American history and politics long into the night during their numerous meetings and gave Paterson ideas for her only nonfiction book, The God of the Machine.[43]


Ayn Rand is to economics what Michael Moore is to medicine. all they have is opinions.

Yeah, that Socrates guy was a dope too.

Michael Moore doesn't hold a candle to the influence of Ayn Rand. The influence of her philosophy has never been lost.

Again, you've never read her work, so really your opinion means squat. You've already shown how much of an ignoramus you are.

[Socialite]

Guess who one of Alan Greenspan's greatest influences was? Yup...

[Socialite]

Although she rejected the labels "conservative" and "libertarian,"[169] Jim Powell, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, considers Rand one of the three most important women (along with Rose Wilder Lane and Isabel Paterson) of modern American libertarianism.[170]

And coadie, what world do you live in that calls "Libertarianism" leftist and liberal? That's laughable. Libertarian is as "right wing" as it gets... the real "right wing."

[coadie]

Here are 10 of my favorite Rand quotes:

1.Achievement of your happiness is the only moral purpose of your life, and that happiness, not pain or mindless self-indulgence, is the proof of your moral integrity, since it is the proof and the result of your loyalty to the achievement of your values.
2.Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage’s whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.
3.Do not ever say that the desire to “do good” by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives.
4.I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
5.If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject.
6.It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
7.Potentially, a government is the most dangerous threat to man’s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims
8.The man who lets a leader prescribe his course is a wreck being towed to the scrap heap.
9.The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
10.There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist.

All about self. selfish hedonism. No wonder the Libertarians have no economics. Then she contradicts her self in being strongly pro abortion like the rest of the Libertarians.



Nietzsche's moral philosophy is primarily critical in orientation: he attacks morality both for its commitment to untenable descriptive (metaphysical and empirical) claims about human agency, as well as for the deleterious impact of its distinctive norms and values on the flourishing of the highest types of human beings (Nietzsche's “higher men”)

Ayn Rand adored this hedonist.

[houston]

I'll send a copy of Anthem to Coadie.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

All about self. selfish hedonism. No wonder the Libertarians have no economics. Then she contradicts her self in being strongly pro abortion like the rest of the Libertarians.



Nietzsche's moral philosophy is primarily critical in orientation: he attacks morality both for its commitment to untenable descriptive (metaphysical and empirical) claims about human agency, as well as for the deleterious impact of its distinctive norms and values on the flourishing of the highest types of human beings (Nietzsche's “higher men”)

Ayn Rand adored this hedonist.

You've never heard/read her work. So stop while you're ahead. Your random Google ........ isn't helping.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by houston

I'll send a copy of Anthem to Coadie.

I would give you a for that... but really, I don't think Coadie can handle Rand.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Socialite

I would give you a for that... but really, I don't think Coadie can handle Rand.

A friend read the description on the back of the book... and said that it was of the devil.