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Old 10-23-2007, 05:05 PM
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I would say no shorts to church.

I agree with that. I don't wear short sleeves to church either, but that is just me.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:13 PM
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Well, I have often wondered if the sisters can wear skirts that come to the knee what is wrong with men wearing pants that did the same.
You appear to be looking for "justice" or at least equality. Perhaps you're even looking for something that makes sense.

I'm afraid that I have to tell you that you must look for these things elsewhere.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:16 PM
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Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
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Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?
jesus also had a crown of thorns....does that mean we have to wear one too? Jesus was wearing a gown, not pants....nuff said.

BTW anyone know what "gird up your loins" means?
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Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
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Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?
I hope you are kidding. With this logic then you should be insisting men wear "golden girdles".
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Well, I have often wondered if the sisters can wear skirts that come to the knee what is wrong with men wearing pants that did the same.
It's inconsistant to say women can wear skirts to just below their knees but men can't wear pants that come to just below their knees....just because they are called "shorts"...
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:19 PM
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It's inconsistant to say women can wear skirts to just below their knees but men can't wear pants that come to just below their knees....just because they are called "shorts"...

I agree. Now, I don't want to wear shorts of any kind. NO ONE wants to see my hairy white legs.
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jesus also had a crown of thorns....does that mean we have to wear one too? Jesus was wearing a gown, not pants....nuff said.

BTW anyone know what "gird up your loins" means?
Pull the "girdle" or belt tighter around your waist and, depending upon the cloak or tunic you were wearing, pull up that longer garment and tuck it into the tightened belt. This would expose your thighs and undergarments but would enable you to move about with greater speed and agility (2 Kings 4:29 and 2 Kings 9:1).

"Gird up your loins..." meant prepare for work or battle. Since Christ has already finished His work and won His battle we see Him now enthroned in ceremonial garb. We, however are His servants engaged in working in His fields and vineyards, and at times doing battle with His enemies. So we are told to "gird up our loins" and get to work (Jeremiah 1:17 and 1 Peter 1:13).

The celebratory gowns and the rest all come later for us (Ezekiel 44:18 and Revelation 7:9-14).

I assume that you, Prax, were asking rhetorically.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:32 PM
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Pull the "girdle" or belt tighter around your waist and, depending upon the cloak or tunic you were wearing, pull up that longer garment and tuck it into the tightened belt. This would expose your thighs and undergarments but would enable you to move about with greater speed and agility (2 Kings 4:29 and 2 Kings 9:1).

"Gird up your loins..." meant prepare for work or battle. Since Christ has already finished His work and won His battle we see Him now enthroned in ceremonial garb. We, however are His servants engaged in working in His fields and vineyards, and at times doing battle with His enemies. So we are told to "gird up our loins" and get to work (Jeremiah 1:17 and 1 Peter 1:13).

The celebratory gowns and the rest all come later for us (Ezekiel 44:18 and Revelation 7:9-14).

I assume that you, Prax, were asking rhetorically.
Right. Anyone have any idea of warfare back then would know it was very hard to fight in a dress down to your ankles. This was before pants were worn and so easily made. Roman soldiers wore short loose skirts. It was so you can move fast if needed
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But what he did wear was down to his feet. and while we don't wear robes we can follow the principle of down to the feet.
But once down to the feet, we get to the toe out/heel out issue. Did our Savior wear toe out/ heel out sandals???
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