Praying People Through - Page 9

coadie · #81 03-10-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Ok coade if ya think he has made you one of the 12 apostles go ahead cause I far I know there was only 12.

Even got that wrong. Judas was one of the 12 and his replacement was also a disciple.

By the way, Paul was not one of "the 12". How do non believers explain that?Are your numbers off?

The great commission tells to make disciples. It mentions no limits.

Todays apostolics are apostles. There seems to be some spreading the idea that the number was capped at 12.

1 cor 12:28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Romans 1
1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Some folks don't know what apostles are

deltaguitar · #82 03-10-2009, 10:32 AM

OK, so no where in the bible does is actually state that speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost.

Isn't it kind of like a hazing for a fraternity. You go down and go through the struggle of the initiation and once you have made it through you are in the club. I don't mean to be disrespectful but I did grow up in this and the anxiety and nervousness that goes along with a pentecostal altar service is something I don't ever want to be a part of again.

coadie · #83 03-10-2009, 10:34 AM

on tongues.

He has them go to a separate room after worship services.

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Originally Posted by staysharp

Now here we found something we can agree on...lol Paul said to pray in tongues at home by yourself, not in a church full of people.

People that don't speak in tongues try to enforce the rules.

Scott Hutchinson · #84 03-10-2009, 10:36 AM

I don't agree with this man on alot of things,but this is informative.
http://www.brothermel.net/MCM_Tongue...er_vs_Gift.pdf

pelathais · #85 03-10-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

In the congregation at Corinth people were trying to give messages in tongues all at once,these passages in 1 COR. are not a prohibition of tongue speaking,but are given for proper usage of tongue speaking in a congregational setting.

How can I tell the difference between "Corinth people [who] were trying to give messages in tongues all at once..." and a typical Pentecostal/Charismatic style worship service where everyone speaks in tongues at the same time?

Are not both groups "mad", in Paul's words?

coadie · #86 03-10-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

How can I tell the difference between "Corinth people [who] were trying to give messages in tongues all at once..." and a typical Pentecostal/Charismatic style worship service where everyone speaks in tongues at the same time?

Are not both groups "mad", in Paul's words?

How can I tell if a cold denomination that observes no events of glossalalia is any different than a Muslim congregation?

MrsMcD · #87 03-10-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Do you really believe God will give the gift of the Holy Spirit to someone who hasn't turned from their sins (repented)?

No

pelathais · #88 03-10-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

Even got that wrong. Judas was one of the 12 and his replacement was also a disciple.

By the way, Paul was not one of "the 12". How do non believers explain that?Are your numbers off?

The great commission tells to make disciples. It mentions no limits.

Todays apostolics are apostles. There seems to be some spreading the idea that the number was capped at 12.

1 cor 12:28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Romans 1
1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Some folks don't know what apostles are

Obviously, I'm not in any position to evaluate your gifts coadie, and I certainly wouldn't presume to judge, the only thing I'm in a position to do here is to talk with you about what you have said.

Concerning "apostles" and "the household of God," Ephesians 2:20 states:

"And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone."

Do you feel that apostles and prophets today are continuing to build this foundation, or was this a part of a specific mission for a specific group of "apostles and prophets" in the first century?

KWSS1976 · #89 03-10-2009, 10:45 AM

O everyone if your church does not speak in tongues you have a cold denomination.

Scott Hutchinson · #90 03-10-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

How can I tell the difference between "Corinth people [who] were trying to give messages in tongues all at once..." and a typical Pentecostal/Charismatic style worship service where everyone speaks in tongues at the same time?

Are not both groups "mad", in Paul's words?

Actually Paul did not say that the congregation in Corinth was mad,he said if a unbeliever comes amongs't a congregation and all speak with tongues that would be the unbeliever's reaction.
If everybody in a congregation speaks in tongues addressing a congregation all at once,that would be out of order,but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater either.
Please Read 1 COR.12,13,14 in context.