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09-18-2007, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I always find it odd that those screaming for tolerance are the least tolerant of views different from theirs, and use dramatic terms like "abuse", "oppression", "persecution", and whatnot for any type of departure from their own ideals.
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Me too.
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09-18-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I always find it odd that those screaming for tolerance are the least tolerant of views different from theirs, and use dramatic terms like "abuse", "oppression", "persecution", and whatnot for any type of departure from their own ideals.
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No, what's really amazing is how we usually expose who we are by how we communicate. The tone of your writing leads me to believe you are a victim of your own words.
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09-18-2007, 05:25 PM
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Miss B, you have just been psychoanalyzed on the internet.
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09-18-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhomie
No, what's really amazing is how we usually expose who we are by how we communicate. The tone of your writing leads me to believe you are a victim of your own words.
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Which words? What am I a victim of? Be more specific...so I can tell you whether you are correct or not.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-18-2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Do you really need me to go through the theology explaining the thief on the cross?
I can.
But I think you are being disingenuous. If you have any Apostolic background at all, you surely are aware of the fact that the earthly ministry of Christ was something of a transitional time between the law and grace.
Jesus was the Lawgiver--the Lamb--the Altar--the High Priest.
The holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. Pentecost had yet to come. The keys had yet to be preached by Peter.
That is all basic stuff that our new converts learn quickly.
But I suspect you know that.
Question again--you have read Schopenhauer's "the Art of Controversy," haven't you?
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Wow ... the Holy Ghost not yet given.... mmm ..... please elaborate on what you mean .... as it relates to this scripture in John ....
If it had not been "given" why would John, Mary, and Zacarias be filled w/ the Holy Ghost ... and why would Jesus tell his disciples to receive the Holy Ghost all prior to Pentecost?
Maybe in a new thread ... and in relation to the thief.
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09-18-2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Which words? What am I a victim of? Be more specific...so I can tell you whether you are correct or not. |
For my perishoners its free, but for you $150.00 deposited into my paypal account will get the clock ticking. 
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09-18-2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhomie
For my perishoners its free, but for you $150.00 deposited into my paypal account will get the clock ticking. |
Can I get a discount?
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09-18-2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Wow ... the Holy Ghost not yet given.... mmm ..... please elaborate on what you mean .... as it relates to this scripture in John ....
If it had not been "given" why would John, Mary, and Zacarias be filled w/ the Holy Ghost ... and why would Jesus tell his disciples to receive the Holy Ghost all prior to Pentecost?
Maybe in a new thread ... and in relation to the thief.
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Daniel, please reconcile the following scriptures for me:
Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
Joh 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-18-2007, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Wow ... the Holy Ghost not yet given.... mmm ..... please elaborate on what you mean .... as it relates to this scripture in John ....
If it had not been "given" why would John, Mary, and Zacarias be filled w/ the Holy Ghost ... and why would Jesus tell his disciples to receive the Holy Ghost all prior to Pentecost?
Maybe in a new thread ... and in relation to the thief.
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We can do the thread, but you know the answers.
The outpouring of the HG was not made available to all believers until Pentecost.
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09-18-2007, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Wow ... the Holy Ghost not yet given.... mmm ..... please elaborate on what you mean .... as it relates to this scripture in John ....
If it had not been "given" why would John, Mary, and Zacarias be filled w/ the Holy Ghost ... and why would Jesus tell his disciples to receive the Holy Ghost all prior to Pentecost?
Maybe in a new thread ... and in relation to the thief.
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My sentiments exactly. I thought the prophets of old had the H.G., they wrote under its unction didn't they? How can one have the H.G. and not have it?
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