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11-25-2007, 07:12 PM
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http://apostolicassembly.org/aboutus_history.aspx
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The Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ Jesus emerged out of the Pentecostal movement that began with the Azusa Street revival in the city of Los Angeles in 1906. Juan Navarro, a participant of that revival, baptized Francisco Llorente in 1912, who later was elected the first Bishop President of the Apostolic Assembly when it formed in 1925. The organization became a California corporation on March 15, 1930.
Throughout the humble beginnings of the Apostolic Assembly, our tenacious yet caring leaders ministered primarily to the spiritual needs of a growing number of Spanish speaking people who flooded into this country looking for a better life for their families. Since then, we have made great strides in not only providing ministry to this Missionary generation and its subsequent generations, but we have broken the cultural barrier and have provided bilingual ministry to subsequent Boomer and Buster generations as well. We are confident that the Apostolic Assembly will continue to grow, in both financial strength and in membership in the years to come. Because the moral fabric of our society continues to weaken, the church stands willing to face the challenges of meeting the spiritual needs of hurting people around the world.
During its first eighty years of existence, the Apostolic Assembly has had eight national leaders or "Bishop Presidents" as listed below, with corresponding terms in parenthesis:
Bishop President
FRANCISCO LLORENTE
(1890 -1928)
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BTW, WE HAD A POSTER HERE AT AFF WHO WAS A GRANDCHILD OF ONE THE FORMER AA BISHOPS
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11-25-2007, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Scripture was used to maintain cultural practices by the men who started this fellowship .... it seems fairly obvious, IMO ...
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Makes sense. And perhaps the same can be said about most organizations, unless "new revealation" entered the picture they maintianed the concensus of the majority prior to the new group's formation.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-25-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Scripture was used to maintain cultural practices by the men who started this fellowship .... it seems fairly obvious, IMO ...
Brings up the question... was Paul writing scripture to maintain cultural practices ?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-25-2007, 07:23 PM
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What I always wondered about those that do not teach the material covering is how they reconcile that every woman that prays or prophesies with her head uncovered AND that if she prays with her head uncovered it's the same as if she were shaven. So if having a woman's head covered is with hair, then would having her head uncovered mean she has her head without hair? In which case it would read, that if she had not hair on her head, it is the same as if she were shaven, and that doesn't seem to make sense to me... I'm sure the issue has been argued a ton, but I have yet to see anyone that can explain this.
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11-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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Also got word that they were voting to abolish the Rule on the women wearing a Veil and also wedding rings !!!
those are 2 of the BIGGEST Traditional rules of AA !!!
more info to come !
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The instant they allowed the hermanos to wear mustachios on the platform, the whole thing was destined to crumble...
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11-25-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen
What I always wondered about those that do not teach the material covering is how they reconcile that every woman that prays or prophesies with her head uncovered AND that if she prays with her head uncovered it's the same as if she were shaven. So if having a woman's head covered is with hair, then would having her head uncovered mean she has her head without hair? In which case it would read, that if she had not hair on her head, it is the same as if she were shaven, and that doesn't seem to make sense to me... I'm sure the issue has been argued a ton, but I have yet to see anyone that can explain this.
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Alex, like I said it would be nonsensical and redundant.
The better approach for this position would be to say the material veil is the question in 1 Cor 11:4-13 but was strictly cultural and the long hair reference in 11:14-15 transends culture because it involkes nature.
I do understand the desire to read hair into 11:4-13 because it would/could make it a sacred or holy issue. To me that is just not possible.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-25-2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
The instant they allowed the hermanos to wear mustachios on the platform, the whole thing was destined to crumble...
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Carp, has this not always been the case in the AA?
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-25-2007, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Carp, has this not always been the case in the AA?
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The mustaches were always part of the culture ... trying to convince them to shave them would have been impossible.
Here in America ... the UPCI was influenced by Victorian Age and the Methodist Holiness movement
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11-25-2007, 07:40 PM
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Does the AA teach it's women to have uncut hair, or just to wear the veil?
Hermanos with mistacios, that gave me a good laugh 
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11-25-2007, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen
Does the AA teach it's women to have uncut hair, or just to wear the veil?
Hermanos with mistacios, that gave me a good laugh
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BOTH.
From what i've seen its always been okay for the brothers to have a mustache (sp?) but not beards..nor shaved heads either.
From what I've heard UPC men are not allowed mustaches, right?
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