BYE BYE kansas Preacher ! ! ! !

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

KP has a great sense of humor and is in no way thin-skinned.

I seriously, seriously, seriously hope that KP rethinks his decision. He's way too good a man to get out there away from the fellowship of the good men among us.

I like and respect Kansas Preacher... there is a GREAT need for men like him among us. Without men of his stature this organization will not have the 'checks and balances' that we need.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Thad

well!! from his own words, he said he was outta here as soon as it passes !

See Ya!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by IBCrazier2

good boy Thad

good boy ??????

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I'll repost it so it's not just a quote.

Is the unemployment forced or a choice?

Originally Posted by Felicity

I don't think that just because people have "issues" with the UPC that they should "get out". Not at all. I would rather see them stay and work to make things better - however and whatever that means to them.

It's when we work "together" that great things and change can be accomplished if indeed change is necessary, because some changes are NOT necessary and some won't necessarily make things better. And again .... I suppose what changes are and aren't necessary and whether or not that makes things better or contrariwise depends on your point of view.

But i definitely do NOT believe that just because you don't agree with everything or like how things are that people should necessarily leave.
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However, you added the word "necessarily" so as to cover your situation. oloroid


Just funnin', Sis.

[IBCrazier2]

My question is, do we look at the way certain people treated and such and do likewise? i have seen 1st hand how family members were treated when they moved over an hour away from the uc church and went to a less conservative church that was in the small city where they moved.


I dispise the holier than thou attitudes that i have seen. At this point it takes everything I have to just go to church muchless want to be involved with all of this junk.

[IBCrazier2]

Originally Posted by Thad

good boy ??????

Just saying I was proud of your remarks.

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

See Ya!

Neckstadt, I appreciate a lot of what you say... just not this statement. Those who make statements like we've seen on this thread seemingly fail to see the spiritual value of people who operate on convictions instead of random opinions.

Men like Kansas Preacher - whom I do know personally - move and live on convictions. We have a great need for that or all we'll have left are people can find it easy to reason spiritual values away.

Men like that should have a right to (a) stand where their convictions mandate it and (b) walk on from days like today with the liberty to say, "Maybe I can try to hang on a little longer.'

Surely you know the value of those elements among us.

KP is a GOOD man. His kind are every bit as valuable as men like Anthony Mangun. Anthony, himself, has the class and understanding to tell you that.

WHAT WOULD WE - OR ANY MOVEMENT BE - WITHOUT MEN OF SPIRITUAL CONVICTION? Well, just look at the outer fringes of this forum and you'll find out.

Bless you, friend.

Originally Posted by Felicity

For example, those who have an issue with the TV thing don't have to advertise; neither do they need to okay its usage. But they can still stay in fellowship with the rest of the body (UPC body) and work to maintain their more conservative views and positions.

We need this. We need it in order to achieve and maintain balance. I've come to very much appreciate and respect my brothers and sisters who are more "conservative" than I might be in some areas.

My best closest friend (Pastor's wife from back home) is very conservative. Do you find that surprising? LOL!


(Just wanted to clarify what I meant by the last statement I bolded in the quoted post above.)

Felicity, are you still at Conference? I was hoping to cross paths with you this week!

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

Neckstadt, I appreciate a lot of what you say... just not this statement. Those who make statements like we've seen on this thread seemingly fail to see the spiritual value of people who operate on convictions instead of random opinions.

Men like Kansas Preacher - whom I do know personally - move and live on convictions. We have a great need for that or all we'll have left are people can find it easy to reason spiritual values away.

Men like that should have a right to (a) stand where their convictions mandate it and (b) walk on from days like today with the liberty to say, "Maybe I can try to hang on a little longer.'

Surely you know the value of those elements among us.

KP is a GOOD man. His kind are every bit as valuable as men like Anthony Mangun. Anthony, himself, has the class and understanding to tell you that.

WHAT WOULD WE - OR ANY MOVEMENT BE - WITHOUT MEN OF SPIRITUAL CONVICTION? Well, just look at the outer fringes of this forum and you'll find out.

Bless you, friend.

This is about as well as it could be said.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

Neckstadt, I appreciate a lot of what you say... just not this statement. Those who make statements like we've seen on this thread seemingly fail to see the spiritual value of people who operate on convictions instead of random opinions.

Men like Kansas Preacher - whom I do know personally - move and live on convictions. We have a great need for that or all we'll have left are people can find it easy to reason spiritual values away.

Men like that should have a right to (a) stand where their convictions mandate it and (b) walk on from days like today with the liberty to say, "Maybe I can try to hang on a little longer.'

Surely you know the value of those elements among us.

KP is a GOOD man. His kind are every bit as valuable as men like Anthony Mangun. Anthony, himself, has the class and understanding to tell you that.

WHAT WOULD WE - OR ANY MOVEMENT BE - WITHOUT MEN OF SPIRITUAL CONVICTION? Well, just look at the outer fringes of this forum and you'll find out.

Bless you, friend.

However, he's the one that said he would leave.