Does The Apostolic Message Need Re-Packaging????

[StillStanding]

Famous Re-packaging Since the First Apostolic Church

2.0 New Testament Canon is approved to be read to the churches. Although inclusion of certain books was debated for a few generations, eventually the current list is widely accepted.
4.0 Christians went from home churches to building a community church building
15.0 Holy Bibles begin to be printed on a printing press, and the common church members are allowed to have a copy for their personal use. This was highly debated as some leaders thought the dangers of the common man misinterpreting scripture would cause the church problems.
16.0 Western Culture introduces men to wearing pants. After much debate, eventually men are allowed to wear pants in church, but platform must continue to wear robes.
16.3 Worship songs based on the equal tempered scale are introduced to the church. The change from Gregorian Chants to ‘weird’ harmonies was a hard pill to swallow and took two generations to be accepted.
16.5 The Western Apostolic church allows men to have a smooth face by shaving closely.
16.6 After much debate, the use of the modern printing press to make religious flyers and tracts is approved.
17.0 Women are allow to wear tight waisted dresses, exposing women’s hour-glass figure in public. This took two generations to be accepted as norm for the church.
18.0 Women’s ankles are allowed to show in their dress.
19.5 Organs and piano music is made a part of church worship.
19.7 Electric light bulbs are allowed in church buildings.
19.8 Roberts Rule of Order used for church business meetings.
20.2 Churches start allowing indoor toilets, and have indoor baptismal tanks.
20.3 Clean shaved faces on men and beehive hairdos on women are expected on church members
20.4 Accordions and tambourines become common church musical instruments
20.5 The Hammond Organ is ordained as the official church organ
20.51 After much debate, the use of radio to evangelize the Apostolic message is approved.
20.52 Women’s dresses up to the knee , and men wearing suits are expected church dress.
20.53 Churches start having choirs sing.
20.6 Churches start taping sermons for church members to listen to at their leisure.
20.7 Drums and guitars start showing up as churches start playing fast dance type music.
20.9 Church begin video taping services, but are not allow to show on TV.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Famous Re-packaging Since the First Apostolic Church

2.0 New Testament Canon is approved to be read to the churches. Although inclusion of certain books was debated for a few generations, eventually the current list is widely accepted.
4.0 Christians went from home churches to building a community church building
15.0 Holy Bibles begin to be printed on a printing press, and the common church members are allowed to have a copy for their personal use. This was highly debated as some leaders thought the dangers of the common man misinterpreting scripture would cause the church problems.
16.0 Western Culture introduces men to wearing pants. After much debate, eventually men are allowed to wear pants in church, but platform must continue to wear robes.
16.3 Worship songs based on the equal tempered scale are introduced to the church. The change from Gregorian Chants to ‘weird’ harmonies was a hard pill to swallow and took two generations to be accepted.
16.5 The Western Apostolic church allows men to have a smooth face by shaving closely.
16.6 After much debate, the use of the modern printing press to make religious flyers and tracts is approved.
17.0 Women are allow to wear tight waisted dresses, exposing women’s hour-glass figure in public. This took two generations to be accepted as norm for the church.
18.0 Women’s ankles are allowed to show in their dress.
19.5 Organs and piano music is made a part of church worship.
19.7 Electric light bulbs are allowed in church buildings.
19.8 Roberts Rule of Order used for church business meetings.
20.2 Churches start allowing indoor toilets, and have indoor baptismal tanks.
20.3 Clean shaved faces on men and beehive hairdos on women are expected on church members
20.4 Accordions and tambourines become common church musical instruments
20.5 The Hammond Organ is ordained as the official church organ
20.51 After much debate, the use of radio to evangelize the Apostolic message is approved.
20.52 Women’s dresses up to the knee , and men wearing suits are expected church dress.
20.53 Churches start having choirs sing.
20.6 Churches start taping sermons for church members to listen to at their leisure.
20.7 Drums and guitars start showing up as churches start playing fast dance type music.
20.9 Church begin video taping services, but are not allow to show on TV.

This is hilarious ... PM ... almost as good as DB'S "I'm a Fascicostal"

You forgot the advent of Apostolic songs written and worship songs sung in minor keys circa 70's[?] or 80's [?]

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Famous Re-packaging Since the First Apostolic Church

2.0 New Testament Canon is approved to be read to the churches. Although inclusion of certain books was debated for a few generations, eventually the current list is widely accepted.
4.0 Christians went from home churches to building a community church building
15.0 Holy Bibles begin to be printed on a printing press, and the common church members are allowed to have a copy for their personal use. This was highly debated as some leaders thought the dangers of the common man misinterpreting scripture would cause the church problems.
16.0 Western Culture introduces men to wearing pants. After much debate, eventually men are allowed to wear pants in church, but platform must continue to wear robes.
16.3 Worship songs based on the equal tempered scale are introduced to the church. The change from Gregorian Chants to ‘weird’ harmonies was a hard pill to swallow and took two generations to be accepted.
16.5 The Western Apostolic church allows men to have a smooth face by shaving closely.
16.6 After much debate, the use of the modern printing press to make religious flyers and tracts is approved.
17.0 Women are allow to wear tight waisted dresses, exposing women’s hour-glass figure in public. This took two generations to be accepted as norm for the church.
18.0 Women’s ankles are allowed to show in their dress.
19.5 Organs and piano music is made a part of church worship.
19.7 Electric light bulbs are allowed in church buildings.
19.8 Roberts Rule of Order used for church business meetings.
20.2 Churches start allowing indoor toilets, and have indoor baptismal tanks.
20.3 Clean shaved faces on men and beehive hairdos on women are expected on church members
20.4 Accordions and tambourines become common church musical instruments
20.5 The Hammond Organ is ordained as the official church organ
20.51 After much debate, the use of radio to evangelize the Apostolic message is approved.
20.52 Women’s dresses up to the knee , and men wearing suits are expected church dress.
20.53 Churches start having choirs sing.
20.6 Churches start taping sermons for church members to listen to at their leisure.
20.7 Drums and guitars start showing up as churches start playing fast dance type music.
20.9 Church begin video taping services, but are not allow to show on TV.

*bump*

Notice that none of these re-packages effected the Apostolic message itself!

I have a feeling that the twelve Apostles would roll over in their grave if they saw how different the church is today as compared to the original!

After the initial shock, they would see that the message itself is the same! After a pause, they would wonder why other modern technology isn't used!

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Translation... "We are just not scaring people enough. If we would make people more afraid of God, then they would love Him more..." That works real well with my wife when I tell her I am going to torture her for eternity if she doesn't love me enough...

Sheltie,

I am not surprised at your response. Knowing your background and having come from the same, I can understand you arriving at this conclusion. However, you are wrong... the clear message of the cross and what put him there ought to make any sinner uncomfortable in their sin. There is nothing fearful about the express love of Jesus Christ! Greater love hath no man than this.

It seems that now some would have a tag line added to the message, the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life, (tag line)"but don't worry about it if that bothers you. We are only interested in you being comfortable continuing in your sin!"

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Yes its past time for change. Drop the tradition of preaching beards are sin. Drop the tradition against women trimming their hair. Use TV and the Internet to preach the gospel. Show the world a Church that is not first in love with money but the Spirit of Jesus. This would be a good start.

Sorry to disappoint you, Michael, but that is not the Apostolic message. If it were, KP would not have made the statement because he already did what you are suggesting many years ago.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

It's hard to change the paradigm - especially if you are afraid of losing profit shares.

Was that a Pun?

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I was listening to Kenneth Phillips preach at the AWCF Conference, and he mentioned that it was time to re-package the Apostolic message.

I know that manufacturers of products upgrade their product packaging to reflect the current tastes and customs. For instance, Betty Crocker was changed from the 40's and 50's look into a more modern looking women.

As new ways to package items are invented, successful companies will try to upgrade their packaging. Colas and Ketchup used to always be packaged in glass bottles, but now they mostly use plastic packaging.

Is it time to re-package the Apostolic message?

Yes it's way past time.

Strike while the Iron is Hot!

[Steve Epley]

Some folks who think they are 'stars' think it is all about them and I am not impressed. I was NOT impressed with them 30 years ago and certainly NOT impressed with them now. Same ole claptrap after 30 years it looks like they could come up with something better. Their message is so convoluted their decendants have little or no appreciation for the Apostolic message.`

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Some folks who think they are 'stars' think it is all about them and I am not impressed. I was NOT impressed with them 30 years ago and certainly NOT impressed with them now. Same ole claptrap after 30 years it looks like they could come up with something better. Their message is so convoluted their decendants have little or no appreciation for the Apostolic message.`

Epley, It does'nt matter, as long as they know Jesus and obey the re-birth message.

The term Apstolic and men will be forgotten, but Jesus is forever.

Repentance, Jesus name bapstism and Holy ghost baptism is a force that can not be stopped.

Nothing can put the brakes on truth.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Epley, It does'nt matter, as long as they know Jesus and obey the re-birth message.

The term Apstolic and men will be forgotten, but Jesus is forever.

Repentance, Jesus name bapstism and Holy ghost baptism is a force that can not be stopped.

Nothing can put the brakes on truth.

If a man preaches a message that sends a distorted message that confuses his following and feels comfortable with men who preach all types of false doctrines I am not impressed with his 'new packaging' veiws.