The Current PAJC Beliefs

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I think many of us on this forum would be considered backslid or at least spiritually lukewarm by many of the old timers.

Maybe, and let's be honest - some are backslid. I take no enjoyment in that sad fact. But I think the real proof of a person's committment is in their desired proximity to the Master.

Standards and traditions fade in importance when the Holy Ghost's refining fire is applied to the flesh and spirit of a saint of Jesus Christ. A lot of these silly issues we discuss become invalid and inconsequential at that point.

The greatest word I could possibly leave you is this: It is important to be separate FROM the world. But even more important to be separate UNTO my Jesus.

I find the closer I get to Him, the less I want my own desires to be met.
No manual or bylaws can accomplish a sovereign imputation of righteousness.
Only me and Jesus can do that.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Maybe, and let's be honest - some are backslid. I take no enjoyment in that sad fact. But I think the real proof of a person's committment is in their desired proximity to the Master.

Standards and traditions fade in importance when the Holy Ghost's refining fire is applied to the flesh and spirit of a saint of Jesus Christ. A lot of these silly issues we discuss become invalid and inconsequential at that point.

The greatest word I could possibly leave you is this: It is important to be separate FROM the world. But even more important to be separate UNTO my Jesus.

I find the closer I get to Him, the less I want my own desires to be met.
No manual or bylaws can accomplish a sovereign imputation of righteousness.
Only me and Jesus can do that.

Wow ...great post .... before you know it you'll be PCI ... ...

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sam

That's similar to what Bro. S.G. Norris taught at A.B.I. He taught that the HGB with tongues was the birth of the Spirit and that unless speaking with tongues (crying)
happened it was a still birth. Verses he quoted were Gal 4:6 "...God hath sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, CRYING, Abba, Father" and Romans 8:15 "...we have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we Cry, Abba, Father."

Well Elder Norris was correct on THIS anyway.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The indwelling part is the problem. I think a repented person is like someone who has his lunch with him but a Holy Ghost filled person has eaten his lunch.
A man might get exited because he has his lunch but nothing like having to have eaten your lunch. There is NO regeneration until the HGB only conception. Must have conception before birth.

To me conception is the Word of God preached and planted in the heart and mind and/or the Spirit of God working in a person's life .... i.e. conviction..

That leads to faith and belief that results in repentance .... i.e. spiritual regeneration. Scripture - many of them - testifies and gives credence to this.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Well Elder Norris was correct on THIS anyway.

Epley buckles????

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Wow ...great post .... before you know it you'll be PCI ... ...

That will never happen, but I appreciate the humor.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Well that certainly isn't speaking in tongues.

agreed, but Bro. Norris taught that it was, and used the analogy of CRYING and filling the lungs with air at birth to speaking with tongues.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Wow ...great post .... before you know it you'll be PCI ... ...

It no longer exist?????????????????????????????? There is NO PCI and hasn't been for 60 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

So are you saying if PP continues he will no longer exist like the PCI??

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

That will never happen, but I appreciate the humor.

There was a time you said that about some standards ... slippery slope

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Felicity

There are different operations of the Spirit of God. One Spirit but many different operations of the Spirit. I've posted this so many times.

I don't understand why people have such a difficult time understanding that the Spirit of God can touch an individual and indwell them before they're baptized in the Holy Ghost.

Belief and faith that results in spiritual regeneration has to precede a baptism in the Spirit.

Maybe if you could post some scriptures that explain your beliefs it may help some of us to see it. I don't see spiritual regeneration in faith alone in the scriptures.

Faith has to precede spiritual regeneration but where in the Bible do you find spiritual regeneration of be something other than the baptisms of water and Spirit?