the King James Version

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Kutless

Aren't you an Author? If yes do you have a link?

I have one book out now.

http://mikeblume.com/takebook.htm

Originally Posted by mfblume

Why? There is a devil.

Think of it this way. If there are genuine $50 bills in the world that does not prohibit there from being counterfeit $50.00 bills. God preserved his word, but he left the devil in the world as well as temptations and so on. Just because there are alternative versions of the New Testament in existence, does not mean God is not preserving His word. Otherwise, by the same token He would not allow satan to so much as exist!

He leads those who desire His will. They will be fine. This involves a matter of FAITH, Sheltiedad. FAITH will be involved in anything to do with God. It is never black and white, or there would be no faith. God has arranged things so that people can run with an excuse if they want one, or can be led by the Spirit providentially to know the truth.

The problem with faith is that it is a gamble...

If there are 6.6 billion people on the planet, and each one believes they are right and everyone else is wrong, then I have a 1 in 6,599,999,999 chance of choosing the right thing to have faith in... and every single one of those people believe that God spoke to them directly... yet they disagree.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I have huge questions about the veracity of the Septuagint to begin with. I wonder if it originated from where it claims it did.

I can provide info on questions regarding it, but I am moving and my material is packed away.

in your opinion what would they have taight, preached, studied from?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

The problem with faith is that it is a gamble...

If there are 6.6 billion people on the planet, and each one believes they are right and everyone else is wrong, then I have a 1 in 6,499,999,999 chance of choosing the right thing to have faith in... and every single one of those people believe that God spoke to them directly... yet they disagree.

Faith is not defined as being right about every little thing. Faith is not in having a bunch of little facts all correct. It's in a person. Faith is trust or reliance up an individual. Jesus Christ is His name. If you have that part done right then the rest important facets should fall into place

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

The problem with faith is that it is a gamble...

It determines whether we only require God's Word in it or not. It reveals who truly trusts God and who does not.

It's an ingenius test!

If there are 6.6 billion people on the planet, and each one believes they are right and everyone else is wrong, then I have a 1 in 6,599,999,999 chance of choosing the right thing to have faith in... and every single one of those people believe that God spoke to them directly... yet they disagree.

So what? Do you trust God or not?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Kutless

in your opinion what would they have taight, preached, studied from?

I have not concerned myself over that since they obviously had something. But whether it was the Septuagint or not, who knows?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

The problem with faith is that it is a gamble...

Not mine......

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by mfblume

First of all she shall not be treated like a slave... "make merchandise of her". And releasing her was through a bill of divorcement. In her case and the man's, there was kindness involved. He would take her to wife, and she was allowed time to determine if she would return affection to him. If not, this was part of the reason for her release. And he could do the same after time, but by divorce alone.

Hey, where did you pick up this part? The scripture presented it as his choice, after he had used her, he could decide if he really wanted her? Seems like a shoe try it on, wear it, then if you don't like it just throw it out? The only consideration for her was that she could not be sold as a slave.

Certainly doesn't seem fair or Godly, but so goes many things in the OT?

I don't think we can be like some of the scribes in copying the texts, and change it to reflect how we think it should be presented can we? It says what it says or else you can listen to some of the critics the text and see if the "oldest and best text" agree or not?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Faith is not defined as being right about every little thing. Faith is not in having a bunch of little facts all correct. It's in a person. Faith is trust or reliance up an individual. Jesus Christ is His name. If you have that part done right then the rest important facets should fall into place

Well said, Praxeas I certainly agree. My trust is in Him.

[KwaiQ]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The issue of which reference text is the real question. KJV advocates, of which I am one, are actually saying the Textus Receptus, that was responsible for all revivals we know about, is the basis for the King James version, whereas most all modern translations are from the Nestle's text which was proposed by the same people who believe God's Word is lost forever, and we cannot know what is left intact in the bible today or not. The philosophy of the men behind the Textus Receptus is one that God's word IS NOT LOST, and that God preserved His word supernaturally using people since He took the effort to inspire it to begin with. Why abandon it after taking effort to inspire it? Was there no long range plans for the Word in God's eyes to move Him to preserve it?

So, whose philosophy you gonna accept?

My words exactly... It is not necessarily what the english is, but the underlining ms they use is what the cause for alarm is. If the ESV was based of the massoretic text and the textus receptus, I'd use it.