Duck Dynasty Star Booted

[SiblingRevelry]

Originally Posted by n david

A&E had a minder at the Robertson home during the interview...they knew all along what was said well before this blew up.



So why did the minder sit there and let Phil say what he said? Most publicists would have stepped in and shut the interview down if they felt it was going south. Why didn't this one stop the interview or ask that the question be disregarded?

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The minder may have been used to what Phil was saying and thinking that Drew Magary would gloss right over that stuff. Magary writes for Deadspin. To him, what Phil said was like throwing raw meat to a lion.

That article also mentions the A&E network is receiving death threats. IT'S A TV SHOW, for goodness' sake. Protest if you want, boycott if you want, but death threats are completely out of line.

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by n david

1) Every employer is required to abide by the Civil Rights Act, which includes safeguards against religious discrimination. Robertson was suspended or fired for quoting a Bible verse and giving his personal, religious views. That is illegal.

2) It wasn't Discovery, it was A&E, but who cares; you're right, they "acted stupidly" (to coin an obama phrase) and had a knee-jerk reaction instead of making a calculated decision.

3) It may still be a free country with free speech, unless said speech is personal or religious beliefs against a certain, very small, but very vocal percentage of America.

I haven't read the entire thread yet; however, this comment caught my attention. Yes - the Civil Rights Act - however, you better be very careful how this is used. It can come back to haunt churches and non-profit groups if things are not done correctly. Believe me I know.... Every church, private school, non-profit 501(c)3 organization needs to be in contact with Christian Law Association and find out just exactly how statements of ministry, handbooks, policy guidelines, etc etc should be worded to prevent future lawsuits and backlash. Preventative measures will take care of lots of things!!!!

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by n david

Correct. While the Bill of Rights was originally written for the government, the 14th amendment expanded it to state and local governments, and the SCOTUS has broadly included the first amendment in it's decisions regarding business and private life.

That aside, while some believe it's not a free speech issue, they cannot argue against it being a violation of the Civil Rights Act, which safeguards against religious discrimination. Suspending or firing someone because of their personal opinion is discrimination, plain and simple.

However, there are many employers who would fire you for publicly pronouncing your beliefs in the manner Phil did. I'm NOT agreeing with the stance that A & E took; however, it was within their right to do so. Many companies have policies that state what a person can and cannot state publicly about their beliefs.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

I haven't read the entire thread yet; however, this comment caught my attention. Yes - the Civil Rights Act - however, you better be very careful how this is used. It can come back to haunt churches and non-profit groups if things are not done correctly. Believe me I know.... Every church, private school, non-profit 501(c)3 organization needs to be in contact with Christian Law Association and find out just exactly how statements of ministry, handbooks, policy guidelines, etc etc should be worded to prevent future lawsuits and backlash. Preventative measures will take care of lots of things!!!!

Yes! My Pastor has the church board reviewing the bylaws right now. He attended a church leadership conference and there was a portion dedicated both to tax and financial info and also bylaws. If your church bylaws aren't specific in your belief on marriage, it should be! We're currently updating ours in order to try to prevent any possible lawsuit.

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

However, there are many employers who would fire you for publicly pronouncing your beliefs in the manner Phil did. I'm NOT agreeing with the stance that A & E took; however, it was within their right to do so. Many companies have policies that state what a person can and cannot state publicly about their beliefs.

I work for a major bank, and they don't have any policy like that. In fact, I don't recall any employer I've worked with that has a list of what you can or cannot say publicly as a private individual.

What's said on the show is one thing, what's said when asked a question in an interview is something else, IMO.

I could be completely wrong. I'm not a lawyer.

[n david]

Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry

The minder may have been used to what Phil was saying and thinking that Drew Magary would gloss right over that stuff. Magary writes for Deadspin. To him, what Phil said was like throwing raw meat to a lion.

That article also mentions the A&E network is receiving death threats. IT'S A TV SHOW, for goodness' sake. Protest if you want, boycott if you want, but death threats are completely out of line.

I agree! Protest, boycott, call, email...but please people, for goodness sake keep it civil.

Was it a Christian who sent the death threat? Seriously. This is like the Alabama kicker getting death threats because he missed a FG.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

I agree! Protest, boycott, call, email...but please people, for goodness sake keep it civil.

Was it a Christian who sent the death threat? Seriously. This is like the Alabama kicker getting death threats because he missed a FG.

The FB page - Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson is Put Back on Duck Dynasty Is On Facebook

It went from the originator to over 1.5M people in less than two days.

https://www.facebook.com/Philrobertsonsupport?ref=nf

And it made the NY Times! Link embed is in article.

Fans Criticize Move to Suspend ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star
A Facebook page in support of Mr. Robertson, which called for a boycott of A&E, had received more than 900,000 “likes” by Thursday night, and numerous Twitter hashtags also called for support of the family and boycotts of the network.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/20/bu...VOvcCTiVKvlgQ&

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The FB page - Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson is Put Back on Duck Dynasty Is On Facebook

It went from the originator to over 1.5M people in less than two days.

https://www.facebook.com/Philrobertsonsupport?ref=nf

And it made the NY Times! Link embed is in article.

It's going up in likes quickly!

[KeptByTheWord]

Encouraging!

[shag]

I used to watched Phil teaching duck calling techniques and then testifying, a while before he hit it big w the show, and after all this blah blah hollywood dust settles whenever, I will still still enjoy his preaching/testifying, and will continue to learn from him how to call ducks better on youtube and videos. Like the Dynasty notebook cover says...."God, family, then ducks".

[shag]

Anyone know, after possibly 100's of millions, does Phil and Kay still live in the same modular home?