All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 8

Jay · #71 01-04-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

Do you also see the above as a compromise? even though the person was quoting Jesus' EXACT WORDS?

It sounds like a compromise from the way that your phraseology attempts to combine Acts 2:38 with the Trinitarian position. The fact is that the Bible does not ever give such a long speech over the person. It is always very simple.

KeptByTheWord · #72 01-04-2012, 01:56 PM

Having grown up in the Pentecostal movement that Steve Epley is a part of and hearing him preach myself, I understand the rhetoric this man speaks of. The "do or die" salvation message. Except most people in this movement can't agree on the specifics of salvation other than to be baptized/immersed in Jesus name, speak in tongues, and then they add in various standards that no one really agrees on including dress codes and the uncut hair doctrine, but most importantly, one thing most of them agree on is this - to hate all Trinitarians, and anyone else who doesn't believe in Jesus Name only religion.

I believe Steve Epley is on here today simply to stir the pot, and to get a big reaction, and for pure entertainment. He has no thought or intention of listening to what anyone else has to say, or to even prayerfully consider that his doctrine may be not quite right. It may not be all right, and it may not be all wrong, but his attitude speaks louder than his words.

If any man thinks they have God all figured out, then that is like the created saying to the Creator, i know better than you. And that my friend, is scary. I would never want to stand and say, my doctrine, and my belief system is the ONLY way to heaven! I would encourage others to search the scriptures for themselves, and find it out for themselves, but never would I want to condemn anyone to hell because they didn't believe my doctrine.

When Paul reprimanded the church about false doctrine, it was to those who no longer even believed in Jesus. He recognized though, that there would be vegetarians, and meat eaters, circumcised, and uncircumcised, differences of opinion, and possibly doctrine. BUT we are not to judge men by their doctrine.... but by their FRUIT!

What kind of fruit are we seeing evidenced here today in this post by Steve Epley?

I am so thankful that I will have to answer to a faithful judge, with the blood of Jesus covering me, and not have to answer to the men of this movement (such as the Apostolic Churches International, or the AMF and so on) who are for the most part, men who LOVE to cast people into hell!!!

God will be our faithful judge, not man!!!!! Steve Epley, you have no right to condemn anyone to hell, that is a position only God serves in!!! Pointing souls to Christ is your (and our) responsibility, not condemning them to hell!!

Amanah · #73 01-04-2012, 01:56 PM

so, could you just take the person and dunk em saying "Jesus?"
and nothing else?

Steve Epley · #74 01-04-2012, 01:57 PM

A Bible class I taught on worship is also on Apostolic Classics.

Racine Apostolic Church, face book.

Steve Epley · #75 01-04-2012, 01:58 PM

We baptize according to Acts 2:38. 'In the Name of Jesus Christ.'
No one in the Bible was baptized saying Father-Son-Holy Ghost!!!

We baptize in the Name.

Jay · #76 01-04-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

so, could you just take the person and dunk em saying "Jesus?"
and nothing else?

I would not go that far.

Btw, is there an eyerolling smiley on here?

Amanah · #77 01-04-2012, 02:00 PM

if the blood is in the name, why do you need any more then just the name of Jesus?

RandyWayne · #78 01-04-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

so, could you just take the person and dunk em saying "Jesus?"
and nothing else?

If you said it with the right inflection worthy of a Southern state camp service.

"Jeeeeeeeezzzz - US!"

TGBTG · #79 01-04-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

It sounds like a compromise from the way that your phraseology attempts to combine Acts 2:38 with the Trinitarian position. The fact is that the Bible does not ever give such a long speech over the person. It is always very simple.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Are you saying that we must never quote Matt 28:19?

You do realize that you're calling trinitarian is a direct quote from the bible, right?

Amanah · #80 01-04-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Are you saying that we must never quote Matt 28:19?

You do realize that you're calling trinitarian is a direct quote from the bible, right?

yeah, what is wrong with quoting scripture while baptizing in the name?