I was talking to someone the other day who mentioned having trouble finding gauchos for a grand-daughter to wear while riding horses. I will add that this person is 60+ raised old time pentecostal.
I asked them why wouldn't they just buy a pair of baggy fitting capris. There isn't much difference in the capris and gauchos except that the openings at the ends of the legs on gauchos are much more flared out. They quickly told me that capris are too much like pants. They said that gauchos are made more like a skirt due to the flaring at the ends. Both are divided between the thighs like pants, so honestly, if someone isn't going to wear one based on the similarity to pants--why would it be okay to wear the other? The grand-daughters are allowed to wear leggings (skin tight capri style) under shorter skirts....but pants/capris are wrong-- gauchos are okay.
I would honestly like to know what is the difference??? Why are gauchos okay-- and leggings under skirts are okay-- but capris aren't okay?
Well, like I said, I wasn't allowed to wear any of the above.
But my point was that if the argument is that a woman's garment must be different than a man's.... well, gauchos should work. Capris, too, since men don't generally wear them. I was just at Target and saw the cutest pair of black and white flowered capris. Men's garment?
But in most traditional Pentecostal churches, gauchos and capris are forbidden. Why, if your standard is based on gender-different clothing?
(and maybe that's the basis for your friend's point of view?)
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Anyone ever wonder, though, why the fuss over Hillary wearing pants too often, and Laura Bush being more celebrated as a lady? Again, nothing to form a doctrine on, but worth considering.
I think the same comparison might have been made if Hillary constantly wore flat-heeled shoes, and Laura wore heels. Heels are more feminine. Dresses are more feminine. A severe slicked-back hairstyle is less feminine. That doesn't mean that flat-heels, pants, or severe buns should never be worn, though, in my opinion.
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Don't you find it pretty sad that when people find out you're an OP, they want to ask you about women's standards and talk to you about them instead of what the real salvation issue is?
In addition, when wanting to reevaluate a belief, it's best to study it for yourself instead of starting a thread to get a majority opinion on it. For all you know, everyone here could be wrong.
Don't base your beliefs on what the majority of any group says. Study it for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
You seem to be really critical on your last two posts here... Why don't you spend more of your time finding that new song...
I know what has been taught traditionally by OPs, I have read the verse, it seems what the OPs have taught to be in line with what the verse says. So, I ask the thoughts of others here to see what I could be missing. I have looked at passages over and over again, and have not been able to see the other side of the view before hearing the other interpretations.
I would not wear capris,it would be too light in the loafers.
For riding a horse would not modest capris be conductive to that activity ?
Part of being modest is wearing attire fitting for the activity at hand.
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There they can find plenty of fault.
Don't you find it pretty sad that when people find out you're an OP, they want to ask you about women's standards and talk to you about them instead of what the real salvation issue is?
In addition, when wanting to reevaluate a belief, it's best to study it for yourself instead of starting a thread to get a majority opinion on it. For all you know, everyone here could be wrong.
Don't base your beliefs on what the majority of any group says. Study it for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
This is a two way street. There are a fair number of people who are attracted to conservative dress and standards in general - then subsequently they heard the gospel and were saved.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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You seem to be really critical on your last two posts here... Why don't you spend more of your time finding that new song...
I know what has been taught traditionally by OPs, I have read the verse, it seems what the OPs have taught to be in line with what the verse says. So, I ask the thoughts of others here to see what I could be missing. I have looked at passages over and over again, and have not been able to see the other side of the view before hearing the other interpretations.
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If you heard criticism directed at you in my posts, turn up your Beltone. LOL!
I'm not being critical at all of you, but was giving you sound advice. If someone is approaching you, a male, to ask about female standards, well, I find that problematic, considering that the issue isn't even the basis for your salvation, nor for theirs.
You stated that you get asked that A LOT, right? Well, that being the case, I find that to be a problem, and really sad. OP's shouldn't be known more for the outside issue, yet they spend so much time preaching on it, the real issue is lost somewhere, and even the sinners can't find it.
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This is a two way street. There are a fair number of people who are attracted to conservative dress and standards in general - then subsequently they heard the gospel and were saved.
I don't find that a problem unless they believe their conservative dress and standards also got them saved.
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HO I feel our friend is asking in sincerity,please don't be defensive at him,I trust his motives are correct,if one desires answers asking questions is a way to start.
HO you are my friend you love God you really do,I don't think our brother would hurt a flea.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
I'm not being critical at all of you, but was giving you sound advice. If someone is approaching you, a male, to ask about female standards, well, I find that problematic, considering that the issue isn't even the basis for your salvation, nor for theirs.
You stated that you get asked that A LOT, right? Well, that being the case, I find that to be a problem, and really sad. OP's shouldn't be known more for the outside issue, yet they spend so much time preaching on it, the real issue is lost somewhere, and even the sinners can't find it.
Nevertheless, if that is your church's standard, you are likely to get asked that. A lot.
HO I feel our friend is asking in sincerity,please don't be defensive at him,I trust his motives are correct,if one desires answers asking questions is a way to start.
HO you are my friend you love God you really do,I don't think our brother would hurt a flea.
Scott, I don't believe he would either. My 'defensiveness' was more directed at the reason why people would ask a male such a question, or even ask questions of someone that have nothing to do with salvation when there are more important issues to speak of. I think Alex is a great person.
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