Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by edjen01

then what is your explaination for why most churches are disproportionally(?) made up of women?

Women, in general, are security minded by nature. Men are generally more independent. Women will gravitate toward that which provides them with a sense of security and acceptance for themselves and their family.

[edjen01]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

Women, in general, are security minded by nature. Men are generally more independent. Women will gravitate toward that which provides them with a sense of security and acceptance for themselves and their family.

those are some pretty large brush strokes.

so women go to church to feel security and acceptance and men don't go because they are independent? if this is true....then how do bars, football teams, golf courses, etc..., get men to give up thier "independance"?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by edjen01

those are some pretty large brush strokes.

so women go to church to feel security and acceptance and men don't go because they are independent? if this is true....then how do bars, football teams, golf courses, etc..., get men to give up thier "independance"?

Football games and bars don't usually have someone in charge who is bossing you and your family around. Many churches do have a 'boss' who tells families how they must live, whether the head of that particular family likes it or not.

I do think that many churches have emasculated the men, by the pastor taking over the role as head of the family. Thankfully, not all churches or pastors are like this.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Football games and bars don't usually have someone in charge who is bossing you and your family around. Many churches do have a 'boss' who tells families how they must live, whether the head of that particular family likes it or not.

I do think that many churches have emasculated the men, by the pastor taking over the role as head of the family. Thankfully, not all churches or pastors are like this.

I was raised in this sort of environment, meaning I was raised by the pastor with my folks as his proxy. It has created an intense distrust ever since.

As far as bars and sports go, that is nothing but "male bonding".

[edjen01]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I was raised in this sort of environment, meaning I was raised by the pastor with my folks as his proxy. It has created an intense distrust ever since.

As far as bars and sports go, that is nothing but "male bonding".

exactly!!!....why can't churches use this same idea.

it is a sin....that some pastors have used "God" and "church" as a hammer to smash apart families...may God have mercy on thier souls.

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by edjen01

those are some pretty large brush strokes.

so women go to church to feel security and acceptance and men don't go because they are independent? if this is true....then how do bars, football teams, golf courses, etc..., get men to give up thier "independance"?

When speaking in general terms, yes, the brush will be pretty large.

By going to bars, football games, etc. men are exercising their independence. No one is there telling them what to do and not to do. They are with their buddies having a good time but they don't flock to the restroom in groups like females at the same bar may do. Does that make it a bit clearer?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by edjen01

exactly!!!....why can't churches use this same idea.

it is a sin....that some pastors have used "God" and "church" as a hammer to smash apart families...may God have mercy on thier souls.

I personally know many, many, MANY people who were told by their pastors that they were not allowed to speak to family members if the family members left their church. Parents were not allowed to speak to their own children. And most of the family members who left didn't even "backslide", they just went to another Pentecostal church.

Some pastors will have a lot to answer for on judgment day.

[edjen01]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

When speaking in general terms, yes, the brush will be pretty large.

By going to bars, football games, etc. men are exercising their independence. No one is there telling them what to do and not to do. They are with their buddies having a good time but they don't flock to the restroom in groups like females at the same bar may do. Does that make it a bit clearer?

not really....i don't know why females go to the restroom in packs....but I don't think it has anything to do with security or acceptance....just like i think men going to bars, sporting venues, golf courses, etc...has nothing to do with them feeling independant.

bars, sporting venues, golf courses, all these places men go to and like to go to.....all have rules. and men understand these rules and how they are enforced....so I don't think men play golf because there are no rules and they are showing thier independance...or men attend sporting events because because they feel "set free"....or something.

I think men go to these places because they enjoy the activities going on there....and maybe they will go with some friends or see some friends there and have a great time....i don't think it has anything to do with independance.

my question is why aren't more church like this? why aren't they places where men want to go and where men have a great time?

[edjen01]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I personally know many, many, MANY people who were told by their pastors that they were not allowed to speak to family members if the family members left their church. Parents were not allowed to speak to their own children. And most of the family members who left didn't even "backslide", they just went to another Pentecostal church.

Some pastors will have a lot to answer for on judgment day.

this is so sad...but true....and I believe on thier judgement day they will be wishing for millstones...instead of His wrath.

[Sister Alvear]

Sadly I know a LOT like that...