Is Pentecost Good to Women in Ministry?

[Coonskinner]

If women have menopause, do men have womenopause?

Just one of the many things I ponder sometimes.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Women who took a ministry role as we would define it are very rare in Scripture.

I believe they are the exception more than the rule.

This is why they are rare today. Not non-existent, but uncommon.

Whether you are a man or a woman, if you have got the goods, your gift is going to make room for you.

That's why you see ladies like our own Sister Alvear who doesn't need anybody defending her ministry--it speaks for itself.

If you are sitting back crying about how powerful you would be if only you got the breaks others got, you probably don't have what it takes. That goes for men and women.

I guess this response makes the most sense to me.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I guess this response makes the most sense to me.

After careful consideration, I have to agree with you.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

After careful consideration, I have to agree with you.

Smart man. To do otherwise would be intellectual suicide.

[LadyRev]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Yes, and they don't scream, holler, pound pulpits, shake fists or stomp either far as I know. Certainly Sis. Freeman and Bobbye Wendell don't.

BOBBYE WENDELL??????????????

OH MY GOSH! I have tapes of her you need to hear!

Screamin, hollerin, LOUD rough hardnosed preachin! And the tapes don't do her justice! You would have had to been there to see the actions with the noise!

I haven't heard her in years and would love to hear her again. She will make a person want to just crawl under a pew and pray for hours...she really gets the job done!

Btw, this is now official "LadyRev picks on Felicity" day!

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Seems there are many complaints these days about women not being accepted in ministerial capacities in Pentecostal Churches. I rarely hear any thankfulness that most Pentecostal Churches are and have always been more tolerant than most mainstream Protestant Churches when it comes to this topic.

My intent in this thread is not to hash out how much more or less (depending on your views) we should be doing, but rather I am curious if the women in ministry advocates in the Pentecostal Church have overlooked the level of acceptance that already exists.

1 Tim.2:[12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.[13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve.[14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.[15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety

Women can teach,preach,prophecy to other women.Titus2:[3] The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;[4] That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children

If a man,not a woman desires the office of bishop,a bishop MUST be able to teach and a woman can't teach a man.1 Tim.3:[1] This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.[2] A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;[3] Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

A WOMAN CAN"T RULE THE HOUSE [4] One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;[5] (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)[6] Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.[7] Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

A woman can prophecy(Foretell,).Acts2:[17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:[18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy

A woman can prophecy(fortell) in assemblies as long as she stays under the athority of the men).1 Cor.14:[29] Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.[30] If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.[31] For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.[32] And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.[33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

A woman must be veiled with a veil when praying or prophesying as a sign she is under athority of the men.A woman has two veils,one her long hair and the other a veil when she prays and prophesieth.1 Cor.11:[3] But I would have you know, that the head (athority)of every man is Christ; and the head (athority)of the woman is the man; and the head (athority)of Christ is God.


[4] Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered(veiled), dishonoureth his head(athority,Christ).[5] But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered(unveiled) dishonoureth her head(athority,man): for that is even all one as if she were shaven.[6] For if the woman be not covered(veiled), let her also be shorn(cut her hair): but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn(cut her hair) or shaven, let her be covered(veiled).


[7] For a man indeed ought not to cover (veil)his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.[8] For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.[9] Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.[10] For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.[11] Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.


[12] For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of god.[13] Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered(unveiled)?[14] Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?[15] But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering(veiling).[16] But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

A woman can't talk and ask questions in the assemblies.1 Cor.14:[35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak (Ask questions,talk)in the church(assemblies).[36] What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?[37] If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Seems there are many complaints these days about women not being accepted in ministerial capacities in Pentecostal Churches. I rarely hear any thankfulness that most Pentecostal Churches are and have always been more tolerant than most mainstream Protestant Churches when it comes to this topic.

My intent in this thread is not to hash out how much more or less (depending on your views) we should be doing, but rather I am curious if the women in ministry advocates in the Pentecostal Church have overlooked the level of acceptance that already exists.

I know the Baptist don't allow women ministers at all.

[Felicity]

I'm only one woman but Pentecost has been mighty good to me.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

BOBBYE WENDELL??????????????

OH MY GOSH! I have tapes of her you need to hear!

Screamin, hollerin, LOUD rough hardnosed preachin! And the tapes don't do her justice! You would have had to been there to see the actions with the noise!

I haven't heard her in years and would love to hear her again. She will make a person want to just crawl under a pew and pray for hours...she really gets the job done!

Btw, this is now official "LadyRev picks on Felicity" day!

LOL! Join the club. I'm good for it!

Bobbye Wendell is one tremendous woman of God. I've never heard her speak in that manner as far as screaming and hollering but if she does I'll give her thumbs up anyhow.

I've heard her speak a couple times ..... once at Gen. Conference. I was so impacted by that message! Got a chance to talk with her later in line for dinner at the restaurant. There was that instant connection that you get when you meet some people, you know?

[mfblume]

The late Sister Nilah Mean said women preachers were far more accepted in the early days of Pentecost than they are now. She was wanting to write a book entitled Women Preachers: The Dying Breed
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