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07-22-2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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I just pay attention. "Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a "world order" in which "the principles of justice and fair play ... protect the weak against the strong ..." A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfil the historic vision of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect for human rights find a home among all nations.
The Gulf war put this new world to its first test, and, my fellow Americans, we passed that test."- President George HW Bush, March 6, 1991
And.... "The regime of Saddam Hussein cultivated ties to terror while it built weapons of mass destruction. It used those weapons in acts of mass murder, and refused to account for them when confronted by the world. The Security Council was right to be alarmed. The Security Council was right to demand that Iraq destroy its illegal weapons and prove that it had done so. The Security Council was right to vow serious consequences if Iraq refused to comply. And because there were consequences, because a coalition of nations acted to defend the peace, and the credibility of the United Nations, Iraq is free, and today we are joined by representatives of a liberated country." - President George W. Bush, September 23, 2003
These guys are globalists who are working to strengthen the power of the UN and the New World Order.
Democrats are Nationalist Socialists.
Republicans are Globalist Socialists.
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You think Democrats aren't globalists?!?! They push the UN agendas as much if not more than Republicans. They are all globalists.
And it wasn't the UN that went into Afghanistan and Iraq.
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07-22-2008, 06:43 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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I still have not seen any credible evidence that persuades me of the scary conspiracy stuff.
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I believe the Bible. There will be a last days beast power that will attempt to enslave the world. This will not be created overnight. Those guided by dark forces are currently working to put it in place, step by step. If one believes the Bible...one cannot deny that there is a conspiracy.
Now, about this conspiracy, it's not just Republicans that are in on it. Leaders in both parties have been bought and are dangerous. The globalists thought they had this election in the bag...McCain (one of them) and Hillary (also one of them). They never thought a long shot like Obama had a chance. And they absolutely flipped when they realized that the American people acted unexpectedly and rejected Hillary...leaving a wild card in this election. Obama is more to the left as a candidate (some have valid concerns about this)...but he's not one of them. If Obama stands his ground he could be one of America's great President...but I predict that they'll kill him. But they're now trying to find out if they can buy him.
We may not like Obama politically...but we have to pray that he doesn't sell out to the globalists who tried to rig this election.
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07-22-2008, 06:45 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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You think Democrats aren't globalists?!?! They push the UN agendas as much if not more than Republicans. They are all globalists.
And it wasn't the UN that went into Afghanistan and Iraq.
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You'll have to read my previous post, yes I know that many Democrats are globalists. But the Democrats have more among their ranks who are for the American worker and the American economy over the globalist agenda.
I know the UN didn't go into Afghanistan and Iraq. Bush led a coalition to defend the creditability of the UN. He sold Americans the lie of WMD's to do so.
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07-22-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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I disagree. If you research it...growing numbers of doctors are leaving to practice in socialist countries with universal health insurance. One reason...they don't have high malpractice insurance to defend doctors in courts. They have regional health care courts where health care professionals evaluate the performance of doctors. Also they don't have such redundant paperwork procedures. Doctors spend WAY too much time filling out paperwork.
I have friends and family in Canada and for years now my wife and I go there nearly every year (accept this year, we go to San Fransisco, at no cost to us, praise the Lord). I always invite people who fear universal health insurance to come to a Canadian forum and discuss this with REAL Canadians with me. Most don't take me up on it. lol
America's health care system is far worse than most realize.
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As I have relatives in Canada I know the system is not a monolith. They definitely have their share of problems. We all have anecdotal stories we can tell. I also work in the health industry and for a bad system we sure have a lot of people from other countries coming here for what my hospital can provide.....
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07-22-2008, 06:47 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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You'll have to read my previous post, yes I know that many Democrats are globalists. But the Democrats have more among their ranks who are for the American worker and the American economy over the globalist agenda.
I know the UN didn't go into Afghanistan and Iraq. Bush led a coalition to defend the creditability of the UN. He sold Americans the lie of WMD's to do so.
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That they have a national agenda does not mean they don't have a global agenda. The Dems are in power...let them get rid of Nafta. Let them stop the formation of the NAU. Let them stop illegal immigration. Have them pull us out of the world courts and other world entities that seek to over rule our constitution
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- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-22-2008, 06:49 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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As I have relatives in Canada I know the system is not a monolith. They definitely have their share of problems. We all have anecdotal stories we can tell. I also work in the health industry and for a bad system we sure have a lot of people from other countries coming here for what my hospital can provide.....
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More people flood Europe and Canada for health care than the US.
In America nearly 50 million have no health insurance and another 140 million have insufficient health insurance. Every year 18,000 Americans die from treatable conditions merely because they didn't have the insurance they needed to cover treatments. Canada's system has it's problems (every system does). However, Canada's problems aren't nearly as extensive as those that we have in the US.
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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That they have a national agenda does not mean they don't have a global agenda. The Dems are in power...let them get rid of Nafta. Let them stop the formation of the NAU. Let them stop illegal immigration. Have them pull us out of the world courts and other world entities that seek to over rule our constitution
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The Democrats are far more likely to do some of the things you named than Republicans.
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07-22-2008, 06:51 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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More people flood Europe and Canada for health care than the US.
In America nearly 50 million have no health insurance and another 140 million have insufficient health insurance. Every year 18,000 Americans die from treatable conditions merely because they didn't have the insurance they needed to cover treatments. Canada's system has it's problems (every system does). However, Canada's problems aren't nearly as extensive as those that we have in the US.
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Chris......why don't you leave? (the country)
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07-22-2008, 06:51 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
But to answer the thread's question...yes McCain isn't given as much coverage as Obama.
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07-22-2008, 06:53 PM
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Re: Is the Media Unfair to McCain?
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I disagree. If you research it...growing numbers of doctors are leaving to practice in socialist countries with universal health insurance.
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Hold it right there... you made that up. Just now, you made that up. And I'm calling you on it. You research it and give me some names.
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One reason...they don't have high malpractice insurance to defend doctors in courts. They have regional health care courts where health care professionals evaluate the performance of doctors. Also they don't have such redundant paperwork procedures. Doctors spend WAY too much time filling out paperwork.
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Doctors spend way too much hiring other people to fill out paper work - and you're talking to a dad who spent most of this weekend in emergency rooms with two different injured teenagers.
One reason we have such high malpractice rates is the American Trial Lawyers Assoc. Jonathan Edwards personally collected $200 million from the breast implant fiasco. Now he's in the running to be your man's veep. $200 million !!! And he gets to keep the money even after the breast implants were found safe and are back on the market.
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I have friends and family in Canada and for years now my wife and I go there nearly every year (accept this year, we go to San Fransisco, at no cost to us, praise the Lord). I always invite people who fear universal health insurance to come to a Canadian forum and discuss this with REAL Canadians with me. Most don't take me up on it. lol
America's health care system is far worse than most realize.
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And the Canadian MP's who get special government "favors" also go to San Francisco (Praise the Lord!) for their expensive surgeries instead of having them done in Toronto.
Our health care ain't bad. I'm not wealthy or even close. In fact, I've been nearly homeless at times. But even with my own huge medical expenses - which have not resulted in huge medical bills for me - and 3 teenagers who tear themselves up going at life head on - I have no complaints.
Twice I had a kid taken into an emergency room this weekend while my wife and I were out. The kids took themselves in. No one withheld care asking for payment or proof of insurance. They received first rate medical care as if I personally owned the hospital. My youngest even got a warmed blanket to take home.
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