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Old 07-05-2008, 05:45 PM
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But Prax, I have heard people act like teaching about women and hair is the biggest joke since......(insert big joke here). And I also was a bit concerned about the characterization that uncut hair was being taught as a substitute for prayer, respect for pastor, obedience to the other thousands of Scriptures, and as the only thing that mattered.
I just don't find that to be true.
WE are not talking about that.This is not about that. We are not talking about that. We are talking about a new specific doctrine made popular by RR and now by LS where by some ladies have taken it upon themselves to even lay their hair on folks for healing because they have special powers...we really need to stick to the topic. It's not about what you just posted. Listen to what LS says
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I am saying all this from the perspective that we all agree women should have uncut hair. That is not the issue. Obedience is not the issue. The issue is a specific doctrine of a woman having special powers being made and circulated..and they even quote occult sources saying witches know about this thing and that is why they have uncut hair. The issue is not about obeying the word. It is a specific doctrine that says specifically there is power in uncut hair, even witches recognize this and they have power too, but from a different source...that is not about obedience. That is about something inate in the hair itself
(Slamming on the brakes) Prax, honestly this was not the impression I was getting. If that is the case I humbly submit my apology and ask for the last hour of my life back.
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because of the angels I have heard explained lots of ways...some say good angels others say bad angels...however the reading says Because of the angels.
it does not really matter though.

it does not say 'power with angels'...

1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to have his head covered, because he is the image and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man.
1Co 11:8 For the man is not of the woman, but the woman of the man.
1Co 11:9 Nor was the man created for the woman, but the woman for the man.
1Co 11:10 For this reason the woman ought to have authority on her head because of the angels.
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I personally cannot see it meaning power in the hair...my hair has never healed anyone BUT faith in His Name and His power has healed thousands...
I am not smart enough to go into some deep study however I cannot see a witch and a christian lady claiming power for the same reason...
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(Slamming on the brakes) Prax, honestly this was not the impression I was getting. If that is the case I humbly submit my apology and ask for the last hour of my life back.
I said it a number of times. The issue is not whether a woman should have uncut hair. The issue is a new doctrine whereby women are told they have special powers in their uncut hair.
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I personally cannot see it meaning power in the hair...my hair has never healed anyone BUT faith in His Name and His power has healed thousands...
I am not smart enough to go into some deep study however I cannot see a witch and a christian lady claiming power for the same reason...
Yet in it 's presentation this is the assertion most walk away with ...

If this is not what is meant ... then LS should make clarfication ...

Yet I believe this is offered up for "effect"
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I said it a number of times. The issue is not whether a woman should have uncut hair. The issue is a new doctrine whereby women are told they have special powers in their uncut hair.
I wasn't necessarilly referring to your posts. I just got the impression from some people on a few different threads that they thought the entire stance on hair was ridiculous. I will retreat to my corner now.
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I personally cannot see it meaning power in the hair...my hair has never healed anyone BUT faith in His Name and His power has healed thousands...
I am not smart enough to go into some deep study however I cannot see a witch and a christian lady claiming power for the same reason...
And that is exactly why I called this doctrine SCARY.
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this is why what Ron said is really insulting. I can discuss the long hair stuff. I can take both sides...that is not what this is about.

Listen to what LS preached about the hair.
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I gotta run now. God bless
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