Bishop G E Patterson - fussing thread (see other thread for nice things) - Page 8

rgcraig · #71 03-21-2007, 10:08 PM

NLYP is that some new type baptism tank you are in?

rrford · #72 03-21-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I didn't respond yesterday when I first read it. My blood ran cold - - just too close to playing God to me for someone to state something so bold.

True. But Epley did apologize. It is a hard subject. Makes one wonder how the prophets would have responded if asked.

rgcraig · #73 03-21-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

True. But Epley did apologize. It is a hard subject. Makes one wonder how the prophets would have responded if asked.

He did and like I told Dan we need to accept the apology and accept the fact that it's his opinion.

Steve Epley · #74 03-21-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I didn't respond yesterday when I first read it. My blood ran cold - - just too close to playing God to me for someone to state something so bold.

I am sorry again I posted it I did not mean to be callous it was the feeling of my heart. I believe everyone outside the Apostolic church is lost. If the Bishop was baptized in Jesus Name in his past he certainly did nothing with it in leading the largest black denomination in America today. It was sad Bishop Mason was baptized in Jesus Name and I quoted right from his own writings where he said the exact opposite. C. L. Franklin was a great speaker but lost.
No one is saved outside of obeying Acts 2:38 and to know it and NOT preach it is even worse.

rgcraig · #75 03-21-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I am sorry again I posted it I did not mean to be callous it was the feeling of my heart. I believe everyone outside the Apostolic church is lost. If the Bishop was baptized in Jesus Name in his past he certainly did nothing with it in leading the largest black denomination in America today. It was sad Bishop Mason was baptized in Jesus Name and I quoted right from his own writings where he said the exact opposite. C. L. Franklin was a great speaker but lost.
No one is saved outside of obeying Acts 2:38 and to know it and NOT preach it is even worse.

Elder, I respect you and your conviction and appreciate your apology.

I work with several that attend his church and they are wonderful Christians - it's just very hard for me to send them to hell.

freeatlast · #76 03-21-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dean

So the real question would not be if he was 'saved' but if one could be saved knowing truth but promoting a false doctrine. What is your opinion of that?

Personally, I've long maintained that a trinitarian could be saved not understanding oneness but they can't go to Heaven promoting a lie.

But we can teach all our man made doctrines of "holiness". Making scripture's say what it in no way says, and we all get a free pass to glory.

With what judgment we judge we shall be judged.

Mr Dean...you should pray to God you got it all right. Every jot every tittle.

#77 03-21-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Elder, I respect you and your conviction and appreciate your apology.

I work with several that attend his church and they are wonderful Christians - it's just very hard for me to send them to hell.

The thing is sister you or me do not send them to hell. The word of God does. I loved this mans singing and yes he was very annointed. That in no way tells of his salvation.
Romans 11:29
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

I am not going to say that GE Paterson is lost because I wasn't their when he died nor do I know what of the Word he obeyed or didn't obey. I do know that if he had sin in his life of any kind that he didn't get under the blood then he isn't saved. Because sin seperates us from God. It is also plain in the word of God that anyone who preaches another gospel is accursed.
So Bro. Epely or no one here is sending him to hell the word of God does that if he wasn't what he should have been.

rgcraig · #78 03-21-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by slave4him

The thing is sister you or me do not send them to hell. The word of God does. I loved this mans singing and yes he was very annointed. That in no way tells of his salvation.
Romans 11:29
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

I am not going to say that GE Paterson is lost because I wasn't their when he died nor do I know what of the Word he obeyed or didn't obey. I do know that if he had sin in his life of any kind that he didn't get under the blood then he isn't saved. Because sin seperates us from God. It is also plain in the word of God that anyone who preaches another gospel is accursed.
So Bro. Epely or no one here is sending him to hell the word of God does that if he wasn't what he should have been.

I understand that. I'd just rather not be the judge deciding who I think is or isn't going to heaven.

#79 03-21-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

But we can teach all our man made doctrines of "holiness". Making scripture's say what it in no way says, and we all get a free pass to glory.

With what judgment we judge we shall be judged.

Mr Dean...you should pray to God you got it all right. Every jot every tittle.

Love how people allways like to quote that and don't read any further.

Matthew 7

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

rgcraig · #80 03-21-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slave4him

Love how people allways like to quote that and don't read any further.

Matthew 7

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Excellent scripture! Believe every word of it!