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05-29-2008, 11:44 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
CC1,
If a woman looks manly makeup and jewelry is not going to help, IMO. How could it?
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It is really subjective but in my opinion I disagree. I think a woman who is not blessed with particularly feminine features can accent her feminiity with a little makeup, jewelry, hairstyle, and clothing.
I have always found it an amusing irony that Pentecostals who are so determined that the seperation of the sexes be of paramount importance discourage facial hair on men and forbid the vast majority of things our culture views as feminine (jewelry, makeup ,etc).
In an age and culture where a certain segment of the lesbian population are known for their manliness I would thing the desire would be to avoid that look as much as possible.
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05-29-2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by CC1
It is really subjective but in my opinion I disagree. I think a woman who is not blessed with particularly feminine features can accent her feminiity with a little makeup, jewelry, hairstyle, and clothing.
I have always found it an amusing irony that Pentecostals who are so determined that the seperation of the sexes be of paramount importance discourage facial hair on men and forbid the vast majority of things our culture views as feminine (jewelry, makeup ,etc).
In an age and culture where a certain segment of the lesbian population are known for their manliness I would thing the desire would be to avoid that look as much as possible.
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CC1,
When I worked behind the cosmetic counter - Barton Creek mall - Austin (lol) I found that most women wished they didn't have to fool with all of that but society forces it on them.
That aggravates me to no end.
Most of the men I've dated didn't really care if I wore it or not. My first husband, before I got in church, told me once - "I wish you would stop dressing, everyday, like we are going to the opera!!!"
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05-29-2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
I am not going to get into this discussion except to say if some apostolic men would just stop wearing those scary hair pieces us women might be able to understand their obssessions with they're looks.
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05-29-2008, 11:50 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
I am not going to get into this discussion except to say if some apostolic men would just stop wearing those scary hair pieces us women might be able to understand their obssessions with they're looks.
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I've never seen an apostolic man with a "rug". Are you serious?
If I do, I'm going to snatch it off and toss it into the crowd and then run!!! I'll make sure my daughter is filming it - put that on You Tube!!
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05-29-2008, 11:51 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by CC1
It is really subjective but in my opinion I disagree. I think a woman who is not blessed with particularly feminine features can accent her feminiity with a little makeup, jewelry, hairstyle, and clothing.
I have always found it an amusing irony that Pentecostals who are so determined that the seperation of the sexes be of paramount importance discourage facial hair on men and forbid the vast majority of things our culture views as feminine (jewelry, makeup ,etc).
In an age and culture where a certain segment of the lesbian population are known for their manliness I would thing the desire would be to avoid that look as much as possible.
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There are a lot of what is called "lipstick lesbians" who look and act like most all women. you only notice the manly ones because they stick out.
my point is, their putting on makeup and such doesn't change their behavior.
I do agree with you that some "holiness" women can look "severe" and some look very sloppy. but have you been to walmart lately?? there's a lot of non Penty's who look sloppy as well.
I also concur on the facial hair issue. I'll be glad when we finally admit that it's a non biblical issue.
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05-29-2008, 11:52 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
I am not going to get into this discussion except to say if some apostolic men would just stop wearing those scary hair pieces us women might be able to understand their obssessions with they're looks.
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LOL!!! One thing that has always puzzled me is the number of older men who get toupees and get them jet black!
They look so fake. Especially on the men who have zero hair left so have no hair on the sides and back for it to blend in to.
Those toupees look like hats on top of their head.
Nothing like seeing a 50 or 60 something man (who if he had hair you know it would at least have some grey in it) walking around with a jet black pile of thick hair sitting on top of his head like a giant cap.
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05-29-2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by StMark
There are a lot of what is called "lipstick lesbians" who look and act like most all women. you only notice the manly ones because they stick out.
my point is, their putting on makeup and such doesn't change their behavior.
I do agree with you that some "holiness" women can look "severe" and some look very sloppy. but have you been to walmart lately?? there's a lot of non Penty's who look sloppy as well.
I also concur on the facial hair issue. I'll be glad when we finally admit that it's a non biblical issue.
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Are you gonna finally bust out the beard?
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05-29-2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by StMark
There are a lot of what is called "lipstick lesbians" who look and act like most all women. you only notice the manly ones because they stick out.
my point is, their putting on makeup and such doesn't change their behavior.
I do agree with you that some "holiness" women can look "severe" and some look very sloppy. but have you been to walmart lately?? there's a lot of non Penty's who look sloppy as well.
I also concur on the facial hair issue. I'll be glad when we finally admit that it's a non biblical issue.
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You are correct that there are plenty of sloppy looking women at Wal Mart who have nothing to do with Pentecost!
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05-29-2008, 11:53 PM
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Pot Stirrer
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
CC1,
When I worked behind the cosmetic counter - Barton Creek mall - Austin (lol) I found that most women wished they didn't have to fool with all of that but society forces it on them.
That aggravates me to no end.
Most of the men I've dated didn't really care if I wore it or not. My first husband, before I got in church, told me once - "I wish you would stop dressing, everyday, like we are going to the opera!!!"
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Good point! I think there is a lot of undo pressure by hollywood and such for women to always look young, and the perfect size. no excuse for being a slob, but our society is out of balance the other way too
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05-29-2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Revisiting the "PANTS" Issue
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Originally Posted by StMark
There are a lot of what is called "lipstick lesbians" who look and act like most all women. you only notice the manly ones because they stick out.
my point is, their putting on makeup and such doesn't change their behavior.
I do agree with you that some "holiness" women can look "severe" and some look very sloppy. but have you been to walmart lately?? there's a lot of non Penty's who look sloppy as well.
I also concur on the facial hair issue. I'll be glad when we finally admit that it's a non biblical issue.
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So true. Every time a post like this comes up I look at the women at the grocery store. I'm thinking - Nope, don't like that hair cut, Nope, nope, nope, nope......
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