Gay Marriage Ban Overturned

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Seriously! And I am not against home schooling on principal, but I have seen some really disastrous results as well.

I think what ever any parents decide to do regarding their childrens education, they better make sure that they are also preparing them to deal with the pressure in the "real" world, because unless they are planning on living communally, at some point these kids are going to have to deal with it.

And I am not talking about throwing them to the wolves, either. Wisdom must be used daily.

Wisdom. Amen. I favor private charter schools or religious schools, preferably hosted by the church they attend. The Apostolic church I used to attend had a K-12 school and the majority of parents sent their children there. Of course it’s still a parent’s responsibility not to shelter their child to the point that they are incapable of functioning in the real world. In my opinion most maybe shouldn’t home school.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Other side of living in the Bible belt? or the other side of the country?

The other side of living in more rural areas...

The small mindedness, prejudice and backward thinking about a lot of things. Along with there being absolutely nothing to do if you don't fish or go to rodeos or ... But I think I've already made myself clear to you on how much I want to get out of here!!

[DividedThigh]

ah the simple life of a country farmer, lol, dt

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Now let’s think about gay people. They’re going to do it. They’re going to live together. While we don’t agree with the union, we also don’t agree with divorced people remarrying unless the divorce was on the grounds of adultery. It could it argued that we’re being selective in our judgment against gays because we aren’t crying out loudly at all about this other illicit marriages among straight divorcees…and they take place and will take place far more than gay marriages.

In all honesty…we do we choose to be silent regarding one illicit marriage and rush to judgment against another? Are we being partial in our judgment?

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Without politicizing or moral grandstanding. What's the gay community's perspective?

For them it was an issue of “religious liberty”, they felt that their church should have the right to marry them and they should have the right to marry.
For another gay person I talked to the issue was that they felt “separate but equal”. They equated it to the day when we hand water fountains for blacks and water fountains for whites. Both had a water fountain…but one was separate from the other and therefore it was viewed as discriminatory.

While I don’t believe in gay marriage, I can see that this is about more than just challenging norms or them plotting to destroy marriage. They honestly see this as an issue of personal liberties. Most don’t wish us any harm but can see the few extremists in their ranks who might want to curtail preaching against homosexuality, though the Constitution obviously will protect that right. But I say, “Bring it on!” The Church needs a little REAL persecution. We always grow and get real with God in times of oppression or persecution. So I’m not afraid.

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I believe where there is a will there is a way. Praise God your school system is good. Of course with the gay agenda afoot, we must beware. Our children may be breathing the very smoke of Hell.

It’s about more than their education. It’s about their eternity. It would be better to be undereducated than lose one’s soul.

Man, you are seriously confusing. I can't figure out what your point is, you flip all over the place.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

The way I see it is that they’re all ready shacking up and they’re going nowhere. In my mind NOBODY should be having sex unless they are legally committed to one another. That means that a man or woman who wants to have intercourse should be married…even if they were each previously divorced for issues other than adultery. Of course as a Christian I’d never sanction such a marriage nor do I think the church should perform them. But if they want to live together…they should go down and have a civil marriage.

Now let’s think about gay people. They’re going to do it. They’re going to live together. While we don’t agree with the union, we also don’t agree with divorced people remarrying unless the divorce was on the grounds of adultery. It could it argued that we’re being selective in our judgment against gays because we aren’t crying out loudly at all about this other illicit marriages among straight divorcees…and they take place and will take place far more than gay marriages.

In all honesty…we do we choose to be silent regarding one illicit marriage and rush to judgment against another? Are we being partial in our judgment?

This is not a good argument for allowing about 3% of the population to change our entire cultural norm or get special rights. Gays already have the same rights you and I have. They can enter into a marriage covenant with someone of the opposite sex. They often do to.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

All I know is that the majority voted to ban gay marriage for whatever reason.

Obviously then even many liberals are against gay marriage

No man comes unto the Father unless the Spirit draws him. We can’t MAKE people hear us if they don’t want to.

That's nice but has nothing to do with my argument.

[DividedThigh]

good point prax this is about them pressing there ideas on society anyway not rights, they are just humans, having sex of any kind does not give you minority treatment or special status, dt

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I believe God does. But I believe that God brings judgment on “national sins”.

What about a state?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

The other side of living in more rural areas...

The small mindedness, prejudice and backward thinking about a lot of things. Along with there being absolutely nothing to do if you don't fish or go to rodeos or ... But I think I've already made myself clear to you on how much I want to get out of here!!

I gotcha. That is why we loved Virginia Beach so much, and why we want to get back there asap. So much to do, and yet still had the small town feel, it really was like the best of both worlds to us.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

My point was…if you feel it’s your Christian duty NOT to expose your child to these things (evolution, drugs, sex, sex education, homosexual agenda, etc) then your only other options are private (charter) schools, religious schools, or home schooling. What aggravates me is that you have these whiney Christian parents who rant about what’s being taught in the WORLD’S school system…yet THEY are the one’s subjecting their children to it.

In my opinion, the problem with this kind of thinking is that children never learn to develop a resistance to worldly thinking, attitudes, etc. They turn 18, head out into the "real" world, are not equipped to deal with its pressures because of Mommy and Daddy's sheltering, and they fail big time. I've seen it happen too many times. I know there are success stories with people who have homeschooled, but I think they are few and far between.